On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Steve Comstock
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>  1. I agree that few shops let applications programmers at IPCS
>
>  2. Mainly by keeping them in the dark
>
>  3. I think this started out a long time ago because SYSMDUMPs
>    created large outputs (filling spool?) and were thought to
>    be only for IBM support
>
>  4. Even if they had access to them, most programmers would not
>    care to look; as John pointed out, they simply consider the
>    dump unreadable.

In my 25 years as an application programmer, I have never seen IPCS.
I knew it existed, but was under the impression it was only useful for
sysprogs.  So, count me in the "keeping them in the dark" category.

A couple of years ago we moved from Abendaid to IBM's Fault Analyzer.
Initially FA was resisted by the programmers but once they were shown
how to use its symbolic debugging features, the resistance crumbled.

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