George McLaren writes:
>Can anyone advise if IBM give discounts on MLC List prices ....as they do
>with PA type products ?

I'll try to answer as honestly as I possibly can: yes and no.

Yes, there are discounts (in the common meaning of the word). But they're
already pre-baked into MLC terms and conditions. We've talked about them on
IBM-MAIN:

1. Sub-capacity VWLC and the ability in SCRT reports to document and
exclude one-time extraordinary exceptions (such as a runaway loop due to
some bad code that escaped into production; IBM has the final say on
whether they'll accept the exception you report).
2. Specialty engine (zIIP and zAAP) benefits.
3. "Technology dividend" benefits.
4. zNALC (and its predecessors z/OS.e and NALC).
5. Parallel Sysplex aggregation rules and benefits.
6. PartnerWorld/Partners in Development licenses (restricted use licenses
for software product developers).
7. Various special entry workload pricing options like zELC and EWLC.
8. Volume pricing per machine or per qualifying Sysplex. (MLC is a price
curve, not a line, for most products.)
9. OTC pricing options for certain MLC products under certain conditions
(such as the recently announced DB2 Value Unit Edition and certain Tivoli
products like Tivoli Decision Support for z/OS).
10. Various technical improvements that have software efficiency effects,
such as LPAR group capacity settings, softcaps, HiperDispatch, middleware
and OS efficiency gains, cryptographic acceleration hardware, hardware
decimal floating point, HiperSockets, etc.
11. Certain Capacity On Demand features which incur no software charges,
such as Capacity Backup (CBU) and the new z10 Capacity for Planned Events
(CPE).
12. Enterprise License Agreements (ELAs) which may offer certain OTC
software benefits.
13. IBM authorized product evaluations under a signed "License Agreement
for Evaluation of Programs." (It's entirely IBM's discretion whether to
grant an evalution.)
14. The 12 month Single Version Charge (SVC) period.
15. Replacement of certain MLC products with functions in base products.
(The older run-time libraries are a good example. When you move to Language
Environment -- moved past tense I hope -- you could have seen a net MLC
price reduction as you ended certain run-time library licenses.)

IBM itself is usually pretty good at explaining all these options, and
there are also some independent consultants who provide excellent advice in
this area, at least one of which frequents IBM-MAIN.

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Timothy Sipples
IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect
Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z
Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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