I agree with what everyone has said about z/Journal.  I've gotten it for years 
and have gotten the notice about Mainframe Executive.  I just thought it was 
interesting and a little strange that there were articles in z/Journal about 
moving legacy applications from the z system to Windows.

Tom Kelman
Commerce Bank of Kansas City
(816) 760-7632
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Eric Vaughan
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:44 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side
> 
> I agree with Tom's comments on many levels. Bob has done a world of good
> for over 2 decades, at times providing the ONLY independent voice for
> mainframe users, starting from 4300 Quarterly all the way to z/Journal. He
> has done this often long before he had enough support to make it work, and
> as Tom said, he has been nothing but a strong voice and advocate for the
> mainframe community.
> 
> He has also in fact has just started a brand new magazine called Mainframe
> Executive. This magazine is the very first avenue (trade show, magazine
> etc.) for information relevant to management levels at companies using
> mainframe hardware. It's a completely different approach without the
> technical content, to help mainframe executives cope in their world. You
> may want to subscribe your management team!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Eric Vaughan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Tom Moulder
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:26 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side
> 
> Bob Thomas is a personal friend of mine.  That may cause you to just tune
> out immediately.  I have always seen him as a friend to the mainframe.  I
> feel sad for anyone that would let one article in a magazine negate the
> effect of years of other articles.
> 
> z/Journal has helped the mainframe and will continue to do so as long as
> there is a mainframe.
> 
> Tom Moulder
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Eric Vaughan
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:29 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side
> 
> Here is a response to this post from Bob Thomas, the publisher of
> z/Journal:
> 
> "To some mainframe users we will be considered untrustworthy mainframe
> bigots in IBM's pocket. While others will think we are selling out and in
> Microsoft's pocket. Hard to win sometime!
> 
> But, what we really want to be is an independent source of information for
> users of IBM mainframe systems."
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Steve Samson
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 2:41 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side
> 
> Tom,
> 
> I just got the same e-mail and thought the same thoughts. With friends
> like these....
> 
> Kelman, Tom wrote:
> > I just got an email titled “Legacy Modernization Spotlight”.  When I
> clicked on the links in it they took me to articles that look like they’re
> in the online version of z/Journal but they’re sponsored by Microsoft and
> talk about converting from the mainframe to Microsoft servers.  Is
> z/Journal dropping the z and becoming Widows Journal, or am I reading the
> articles wrong?  Here is a web link that ends up going to the same
> articles.  Once you get to the main page click on one of the articles
> under the heading “In‑Depth”.
> http://zjournal.tcipubs.com/issues/LegacyModernization04-08.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom Kelman
> >
> > Commerce Bank of Kansas City
> >
> > (816) 760-7632
> 
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