On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:53:07 +0200, Barbara Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>Mark,
>Out of curiosity: What's the problem with RACF datasharing? We do that,
too, and never had a problem with fresh CFRM policies.
>

If your first IPL loads a CFRM then I wouldn't expect a problem.   

The first IPL without any CFRM policy loaded (we don't have the pre-loaded one
since we don't know what hardware we will be running on) puts RACF in 
read only mode.   So we issue the command to turn off datasharing, load and
start the CFRM policy, then turn on datasharing.

As Skip pointed out, the CFRM policy could be pre-loaded from a floor 
system or rescue system etc., but there are some other things we do doing
the first IPL of the first system and then we re-ipl. Since we started
mirroring,
we don't even require any floor / rescue system.  We can just IPL our own
systems.  Although it is still in our written procedures to do so at the moment
just to find the current IPL address.  The plan is to have that optional and
send that information to multiple email addresses (yahoo and hotmail). 
We already do that for some other stuff (tape / vaulting information mostly). 

I don't really like relying on a floor system.  It could be down level 
compared to our production systems (or even a higher level could be 
a problem).  So I still maintain a onepak system (see my web site for 
an example) that matches our OS level "just in case".

Mark
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