I read about FDRSEL and expect to use it. The main shortcoming
compared with HSM is not direct interface with tape management. Looks
like I'll need to parse the output and generate TMSUPDTE statements.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Joseph Butz
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: FDRABR ARCHIVE
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Regarding this:
> 
> |    What I don't have as yet is a useful equivalent to HSM recycle.
But
> | I'm using virtual tape with 99,999 available volumes.
> 
> FDRABR provides a utility call FDRTSEL to recycle archive tapes.
> 
> FDRTSEL (FDR Tape Selection Utility) can identify older tapes and
copy,
> re-stack, and consolidate tapes to new volumes.
> The FDRTSEL process will automatically update the Archive Control File
> and related catalog entries.
> FDRTSEL will retain the original dump characteristics, archive date,
> backup data set names, and expiration date.  FDRTSEL has options to
> select archive backups primarily by age, or expiration date, but it
can
> also select files by disk volume or backup volume.  Also with FDRTSEL
> you can put the output tapes under catalog control and maintain a
fixed
> expiration date in the Archive Control File.
> 
> For more information, please contact Innovation Support.
> Joe Butz
> 
> Gibney, Dave wrote:
> >    No, or I've misunderstood the FDR doc. If you specify catalog
> > retention against the two TAPE DD's, FDR doesn't assign an expire
date
> > to the archive dataset. The archive will exist until it is
uncataloged.
> > That's why I need two archive steps. One does the NOLIMITs (that
FDRABR
> > flat interprets different than HSM) and the other does all the other
> > MGMTCLAS's.
> >    The whole backup/archive job has around 40 or 50 steps. A
combination
> > of FDRREPORT, REXX, SORT, DCOLLECT, and FDRABR steps. I can't decide
if
> > it's kludgy or elegant :)
> >    If I'm wrong, I'd like to here about it soon.
> >    What I don't have as yet is a useful equivalent to HSM recycle.
But
> > I'm using virtual tape with 99,999 available volumes.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> >> Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
> >> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:40 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: FDRABR ARCHIVE
> >>
> >> Dave,
> >>
> >>   In my shop we routinely recall datasets that were migrated 4 to
10
> >>
> > years
> >
> >> ago. From your post below you are arbitrarily changing your retpd
from
> >> NOLIMIT (or don't delete) to 1 year.
> >>
> >> Have you checked with your users? How about legal?  One would think
if
> >>
> > the
> >
> >> original retention was set to Nolimit then the data owner did not
want
> >> his/her data automatically deleted.
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> From: Gibney, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Mon 5/19/2008 6:36 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: FDRABR ARCHIVE
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   Sounds like Joseph is correct. I am finishing a conversion from
HSM
> >>
> > to
> >
> >> FDR and I found I needed two archive runs. One for MGMTCLAS with
all
> >> NOLIMIT (which HSM keeps forever and FDRABR keeps a year) where I
use
> >> catalog control of the FDRABR tape and another step for the rest of
my
> >> MGMTCLAS's where FDRABR pays attention to SMS rules.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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