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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Sipples) writes:
> Nobody said Parallel Sysplex and GDPS are the only high availability
> clustered solutions in the market. But this whole thread got started
> because of a complaint about *planned* outages. One must not be sloppy
> here: "five nines" should have a business definition, and that definition
> does not typically distinguish between planned and unplanned outages. (Or
> at least people should say something like "five nines, excluding planned
> outages of up to [X] duration [Y] times per year.") If you're down, you're
> down.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#97 We're losing the battle
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#99 We're losing the battle
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#101 We're losing the battle
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#7 We're losing the battle
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#10 We're losing the battle

when we were out marketing ha/cmp 
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

... against tandem (as well as s/88 aka stratus) ... there was a
customer with five-nines application availability requirement (five
minutes outage/annum). the non-clustered fault-tolerant solutions had
software maintenance (scheduled) outages that far exceeded 5min/annum.

we had also coined the term disaster survivability and geographic
survivability ... i.e. clustering at a distance ... as hardware and
other components become more & more reliable ... localized disturbances
were becoming a larger percentage of unplanned outages.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#available

as mentioned earlier in the thread ... long ago and far away, my wife
had been con'ed into going to POK to be in charge of loosely-coupled
architecture ... where she created peer-coupled shared data. 
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#shareddata

Lack of uptake (at the time) resulted in her not staying long in the
position. Except for ims hot-standby ... it wasn't until sysplex that
you started seeing her architecture being supported.

the long mainframe lead time ... was at least partial motivation for
ha/cmp product (based on power platform rather than mainframe
platform). it was also behind POK & Rochester objecting to ha/cmp
contributions to the corporate continuous availability strategy document
... claiming that it would be years before they could have such support.

some folklore x-over ... Bruce's talk last month at Jim's tribute
pointed out that his formulization of transaction semantics was the real
significant enabler opening up online transactions (sufficient trust in
computer operations vis-a-vis manual/paper operation). This was during
the days of the original relational/sql implementation project at san
jose research on vm/cms platform
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#systemr

Following Bruce's talk was some people from tandem (corresponding to Jim
having left research for tandem). Two things mentioned in that
time-frame was Jim defining the TPF thruput (ACP having been renamed TPF
as more non-airlines started using it for transactions) as a transaction
objective for Tandem systems. The other was the study showing that
hardware was becoming significantly more reliable and other factors were
increasingly becoming source of outages (planned, human mistakes,
disturbances in localized geographical area).

Jim later left Tandem for DEC database group in San Francisco. It was in
this time-frame that I had something of an argument with him at '91
Asilomar SIGOPS ... where I was claiming I could do high availability on
(clustered) commodity hardware (using ha/cmp methodology as example) and
he claiming that it still required proprietary hardware (somewhat
reflecting the Tandem and DEC vax/cluster affiliations). I've since
noted that not too long later, he then had to be up on the stage for the
announcement of the m'soft availability clustering ... recent reference:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#50 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment 
Corporation

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