>That is a minor benefit. 
Not to me, it isn't. To me this is a HUGE benefit. I am the one who is supposed 
to figure out why 'automation didn't work' during system shutdown, especially 
when the operator forced down Jes2 after he couldn't see the jobs/stcs that 
hadn't come down *before* JES. Or when they say 'automation didn't terminate'. 
Try to find out why when there is no syslog, no automation log, no joblog (the 
thing is started sub=mstr)....

They are especially fond of saying 'the system doesn't come down' on the 
monoplexes (where we didn't have operlog) until I got so fed up that I forced 
the setup of operlog even on the monoplexes.

>The big benefit is having all the logs for the sysplex
>combined in one place when trying to diagnose a problem. 
*That* is considered a big drawback here! When I established operlog here, I 
got temporary update access to all ISPF profiles for the company to change the 
default log a in SDSF to log s to not 'irritate everybody'.

I admit that I go to syslog, too, when I have to check for a problem that I 
know is limited to one system, mostly when that system doesn't output a lot of 
lines. Scrolling past all the stuff from other systems that output a lot is 
tiresom. (And yes, I know about operlog viewer...) 

The thing that I really hate is that it also takes just about forever when I 
look into syslog - log s (even on the same system).

Barbara
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