The question posed by Michael was how does someone select datasets for
migration based on size. The answer, "You don't". Let me explain.

The purpose of space management is to make sure that you have enough
available space in your storage pools to handle new allocations and
extending of existing allocations. Movement of datasets should only
happen to meet that end. The only reason "size matters" <grin> is
because the larger the allocation of the migration-eligible dataset is,
the easier the goal is met to provide available free space in the
storage pool. 

To that end, I agree with Ted. Migrating datasets based solely on some
minimum size is ludicrous, especially if it is a very small value. 

We all know that placing datasets on L0, L1 and L2 is a balancing act
based on constraints that vary shop-to-shop and definitely change over
time.

Bob     

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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:12 AM
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The down side of this method is that you only have one chance to
determine the size, at dataset creation. Whatever happens to (the size
of) the dataset afterwards is out of ACS routines control.
We have CA-DISK and there I can (and do) explicitely exclude datasets
from archiving/migration based on the size at that moment.

Kees.

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> Not HSM, selection is done by assigning SMS Management class based on
size in the SMS ACS routine.
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> From: Michael Wickman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Mon 7/28/2008 8:55 AM
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> 
> Just curious how you select for migration base on size.  Do you set
> special management class based on primary space at allocation time?
Or
> are there HSM commands that help with this selection process?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:56 PM
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> >We do not migrate anything smaller than 5mb since the overhead of
> migrating them and having them recalled later was greater than the
cost
> of just leaving them on disk!
> 
> I mentioned this on IBM-Main many years ago.
> I was told I was full of s**t.
> Back then, it was any dataset a cylinder (.8 MB) or smaller.
> Now, I think even 5MB is probably small.
> 
> Analysis is required, but the concept is sound.
> 

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