On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 02:25:10 -0700, Ron Hawkins 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Kees, Ted, et al,
>
>As far back as I can remember IMS and DB2 logs have been hand 
placed to
>reduce the chance of contention between the Logging process (mainly 
write)
>and the Archive process (read). The most common practice I have seen 
is a
>round-robin arrangement where the next used log is always on a 
different
>volume, thus keeping the archive process one volume behind.
>
>SMS does not take away the need to look after your loved ones. While 
80% of
>datasets can happily exist anywhere in the Mosh Pit, there are still a 
few
>precious "hotties" that need special treatment. They need to be hand 
placed,
>which is one of the reasons SMS STORCLAS has the Guaranteed Space 
attribute:
>to allow a VOLSER to be specified and honoured. Rather than calling it 
micro
>managing, I would suggest it is good practice. Allocating the DB2 logs 
is
>hardly a daily occurrence, and neither is allocating the WADS, catalogs,
>RACF datasets and other files that require special treatment.
>
>Critical Files that must be kept contention free need to be hand placed.
>Files that need special treatment, like Solid State Performance for the 
WADS
>in FlashAccess, also need to be hand placed. System Managed Storage 
is not
>about chaos, it is about ensuring order. Giving the owner of DB2 
performance
>the tools to deliver reliable performance will make everything run 
smoother.
>It doesn't matter if they are a DBA, Storage Admin, or the Capacity 
Planner:
>as long as they can hand place the things that need TLC. Kees' 
experience is
>a good example of this.
>
>Ron
>
>
>>
>> Right, until some extent: yes, the DBA's should not be able to 
request
>> those storage management details.
>>
>> Another point that you (the storage manager) should be aware of 
when
>> concerning DB2 Archive Logs is their performance. When we moved 
from
>> Hitachi disk to ESS, we had severe performance problems with the 
Log
>> Archiving. DB2 was logging faster than archiving could empty the 
logs
>> causing several DB2 halts. We had to spread the DB2 Logs over the 
ESS
>> in
>> such a way that logging did not interfere with archiving, thus 
ensuring
>> sufficient archive performance.
>>
>> I think this is an ESS problem and not a DS8000 problem, but you 
might
>> want to take a look into this, to prevent the DBA's from seeing
>> justification in their storage management demands.
>>
>> Kees.
>
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Thanks for the feedback Ron et.al.  Some can call it micro-managing and 
their entitled to their opinion but unless someone knows all the details 
surrounding an environment, that is all it is...an opinion.  

I definitely agree that the need for little islands of storage doesn't 
really make sense from a storage management perspective but 
unfortunately, I am not a DBA and they get a lot more respect than my 
meager position holds so my two cents counts for very little.

I did want to pass on some more information just to hopefully help 
someone else who might run into this situation.

Apparently, the DBAs were using a template definition for several jobs 
where they were specifying a "generic" allocation of 100 primary and 100 
secondary cylinders and a volume count of 5.

This would work for some jobs but not for ones using larger tables.  
According to the DBAs, this was a necessary evil when they upgraded 
from version 7 to 8.  After questioning this, they were able to remove 
the generic space allocation from the template which has solved most of 
the issues.

I've gotten a lot of good feedback so I thank you all.

Gil.

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