On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:09:15 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Fred Schmidt wrote:
>
>>The latest z/Journal has a study by Microsoft comparing Windows against
>the mainframe in terms of electrical power usage for CICS web-based
>applications. It claims that Windows is many times more efficient.
>
>>You can find the PDF document at
>http://www.zjournal.com/redir.cfm?rid=939
>
>>Comments?
>
>There is a catch: They're using NetCobol on a z/OS machine on this Microsoft
>sponsored PDF.

I didn't read that. I read that they got results for the z9 from an IBM
Redbook (run on a different machine). They then "extrapolated" the results
from the original machine to a z9 machine. They then took the code in the
Redbook and converted it to NetCOBOL to run on the Fujitsu machine. They
also ran this under Fujitsu's version of CICS (NeoKicks).

>
>What's more, theyre using IBM's published results against a test run on their
>Fujitsu machines. They really never used a z/OS machine themselves.
>

Correct. They are "extrapolating" what IBM's results might have been if IBM
were to redo their tests on a z9. They "danced around" the newest z10
announcement entirely.

>NetCobol belongs to Fujitsu. Fujistu and Microsoft is co-operating together
>MMA to lure people from "legacy" z/OS.
>
>I would only take this comparision seriously if they ACTUALLY used IBM's own
>COBOL and WebSphere and that they actually used/rented a z/OS machine.
>
>What's more, you can't really use published numbers against actual test
>results.
>
>Go figure...
>
>Groete / Greetings
>Elardus Engelbrecht

Also, they did not indicate how they would convert the normal "support"
operations such as batch reporting. They also did not cover other things
that we looked at a couple of years ago such as: debugging an application
outage (AbendAID equivalent), restarting the "job stream" properly (CA-11
equivalent), monitoring the "batch" processing (CA-7 equivalent). 

--
John

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