As recently as zOS 1.4, yes. FORCE (no ARM) was required to remove a system task that was killing the system, it went NSWNFS, and it was critical we bring the task back up. It refused to restart, until an IPL cleared memory. We also had more than a few TSO user ids that did the same, but we didn't IPL for those.
It seems to me that there has been some improvement in zOS 1.8 in regards to FORCE. I had to issue a FORCE with no ARM on a task off that was severely misbehaving, and it went NSWNFS, and I thought the system was hosed, but it cleaned up and left the system completely, with clean up messages and everything. And I was thanking my lucky stars (at IBM) that I didn't have to call for an IPL (bad juju). Regards, Gary Diehl Systems Administration "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary people. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary person." -Elbert Hubbard ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
