good grief, why do you keep fighting with the storage admins? 

make one zFS "download" extended format dataset on ONE permanently mounted mod 
54 volume, and be done with it. 

use that "download" file system for z/OS, cics, db2, program products, etc. Use 
skulker to keep it clean of "old" files.

Bobbie Justice


-----Original Message-----
>From: "McKown, John" <[email protected]>
>Sent: May 29, 2009 3:45 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush
>
>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:43 PM
>
>> To: [email protected]
>
>> Subject: Re: FMID descriptions
>
>>
>
>> > ... I looked at the various SMP/E LIST commands, but
>
>> parsing any one of
>
>> > those reports seems to be overkill for my purposes.
>
>>
>
>> You could do UNLOAD FUNCTIONS instead of LIST and that output
>
>> should be
>
>> much easier to parse.
>
>>
>
>> > Kurt Q, feel free to jump in here and tell me that it is
>
>> possible run
>
>> > some report that just provides these two pieces of information.
>
>>
>
>> Just provides FMID and DESCRIPTION? Nope, nothing that simple exists.
>
>> What fun would that be? You could of course write a program
>
>> (a "real"
>
>> program, not REXX) that uses GIMAPI to read the zone and
>
>> extract exactly
>
>> this info, but I dare say its not for the faint of heart.
>
>>
>
>> Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
>
>Kurt,
>
>Could I ask a question which I know you likely cannot answer. But, if 
>possible, could you explain why the SMP/E Internet download stuff in SMP/E 
>uses UNIX files to store the data rather than z/OS "legacy" type datasets 
>(perhaps compressed with TERSE or XMIT'ed)? The reason that I ask is that to 
>download z/OS 1.10 and install it was a "bother" due to the fact that I need a 
>single zFS filesystem which required 10 SMS managed volumes. That's because 
>zFS files cannot be multivolume unless they are also SMS managed. What I would 
>do in the past was just use some "offline", unused, volumes for this sort of 
>thing. My usual method of doing this is to NFS mount a USB drive on my Linux 
>desktop to z/OS. Weird, but it keeps the storage admins off my case.
>
>Just very curious.
>John McKown
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