Mike

The IBMTCP-L list is the one best to use for issues and problems involving 
z/OS Communications Server.

> Are there any books red or otherwise that can help me with this?

The redbook designed to deal with matters arising from the withdrawal of the 
3745 Communication Controllers is the following:

IBM Communication Controller Migration Guide
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246298.html

> We currently use DLSW and Cisco routers to do the SNA/polling of the old 
controllers.

Since you mention "polling" this could be more clearly - if longwindedly - 
stated as "We currently use DLSW supported within Cisco routers to mimic the 
operation of SDLC lines so that the Communication Controller continues to 
operate as the primary SDLC station and the "LU0" controller continues to 
operate as the secondary SDLC station. This means the Communication 
Controller imagines it is polling the "LU0" controller directly and the "LU0" 
controller imagines it is being polled directly by the Communication Controller 
whereas, in fact, the polling performed by the Communication Controller is 
thrown away by the adjacent node running DLSw and the node running DLSw 
adjacent to the "LU0" controllers performs the polling of the "LU0" 
controllers."

You see it takes quite a lot of explanation to justify mentioning "polling of 
the 
old controllers".

This only indirectly involves SNA since SDLC is just one of many data link 
control protocols which SNA can use and, although I can't quote an example, 
SDLC could be used by networking protocol suites other than SNA.

You didn't say what the "LU0" controllers were. Since "SSFCU" may 
be "Security Services Federal Credit Union", this hints that you are 
specifically 
an "organisation" (.ORG) in the "finance" sector, I could guess that the so-
called "LU0" controllers could be 3600s - you did say "old"! - or 4700s or some 
lookalike.

> I have been tasked to move our old SNA/SDLC communications controllers 
to a Windows communications server environment.

This smells of "prejudice", in that the "solution" appears to have been decided 
before the "problem" has been understood and analysed. Is this a case of 
the "suits" dictating technical solutions to the technicians?

One possible solution - based on "technical" considerations - is to continue to 
use NCP while removing the dependency on 3745 communication controllers. 
This could involve no changes at all to the presumably distributed "LU0" 
controllers and their adjacent DLSw "routers".

Assuming this "solution" looks appealing after having read "IBM Communication 
Controller Migration Guide", you should then read the following redbook:

IBM Communication Controller for Linux on System z V1.2.1 Implementation 
Guide
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247223.html

You will see that you will need to change your NCP - and VTAM - definitions 
as they relate to the distributed controllers somewhat.

The major requirement with the CCL product is that you have the skills to 
install and operate a LINUX operating system and associated programming on 
the zSeries platform. That apart, your existing skills with VTAM and NCP are 
preserved.

I am also assuming that you have the hardware available to set up an OSA in 
OSN mode, probably so highly desirable as to be required.

The CCL solution has the highly appealing quality of kicking sand in the face 
of 
the "Windows" solution in that it uses an operating system platform which 
kicks another part of the anatomy even if it is required in the case of CCL to 
run on a zSeries platform rather than an Intel platform.

Chris Mason

On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:52:09 -0500, Ward, Mike S <[email protected]> 
wrote:

>Hello all, I have been tasked to move our old sna\sdlc communications
>controllers to a Windows communications server environment. We currently
>have z\os V1.7 with VTAM and TCP\IP. We will be getting Windows
>Communications Server V6 for the windows server that will take the place
>of the old LU0 controllers at remote locations. I'm not sure where to
>start in setting up communications from our VTAM environment to this
>Windows environment. We currently use DLSW and Cisco routers to do the
>sna/polling of the old controllers. Are there any books red or otherwise
>that can help me with this? I have searched the IBM site for Windows
>Communications server and LANDP, but I mostly get z/os communications
>server books there. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO
Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Reply via email to