Eric,

Yes, you would definitely bury Escon channels doing anything with
current disk or tape.  However, moving to 4 Gb Ficon (much less 8 Gb)
you won't see any significant delays across the channels - unless you
have a huge, well-balanced DASD farm (without balanced channels  :-)  )

Rex

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Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:11 AM
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Subject: Re: IBM Announces FICON Express8

I doubt if the new channels will be significantly more expensive if you
buy 
them with a new machine.  If you just took delivery of your machine 2
months 
ago, and then realize these chanells could help because you have a huge
DASD 
farm, you might be talking significant dollars, although if you have the

processing for a significant DASD farm, the added cost might not seem so

high.  Since I'm not working now, I can't really ask IBM how much these 
channels cost, and I'm sure if someone else found out, they wouldn't be 
allowed to say how much they cost.

Radoslaw - I suspect your right about these new channels not helping the
I/O 
load much for the average shop.  I know when I worked at P&H Mining, the

only time I ever saw channels above 50% where when backups were running,
and 
all 16 of our 3490E tape drives were running.  I believe that caused 
significant delays backing up through the 4 Escon channels attached to
the 2 
controllers, but then in the manufacturing environment they had, it
wasn't 
that critical to get the batch done that fast.  Actually, Australia and
a 
few other parts of the world that used our mainframe did experience
delays 
during their prime shifts, but I guess they learned to live with it.

I suspect the real benefit will come when all the devices made include 
support for the new channels, and that probably will be awhile.

Eric Bielefeld
Sr. Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-475-7434

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