Shmuel,

Experience is the teacher. My problem is that a lot of folks with the 
experience will be retiring, hence a lot of experience and insight goes 
away..fwiw

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com

On Jun 22, 2012, at 10:02 AM, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" 
<shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:

> In <vnetibm.20120621090814.2...@bldgate.vnet.ibm.com>, on 06/21/2012
>   at 01:51 AM, Tom Ross <tmr...@stlvm20.vnet.ibm.com> said:
> 
>> We are working on adding help for messages where help is not
>> available elsewhere, but including syntax descriptions and 
>> diagrams to a message manual to explain a COBOL syntax error 
>> would mean duplicating what is in the Language Reference Manual 
>> already.
> 
> 1. Nobody asked for that.
> 
> 2. It wouldn't help.
> 
> What would help is an explanation of the *specific* errors that cause
> the message to be issued. The messages are not self explanatory,
> despite half a century of IBM's claims that they are.
> 
>> For example, P/I has a compiler messages manual, but the
>> explanations still require you to read the Language Reference Manual
>> to solve the problem.
> 
> I've solved plenty of problems using the explanation in the PL/I
> messages manuals[1] without recourse to the language reference
> manuals, also there certainly some infrequent cases where I needed to
> look up the syntax. But I have never seen a COBOL manual that came
> close to the quality of the PL/I manuals I've used.
> 
> [1] Not that they were perfect.
> 
> -- 
>     Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
>     Atid/2        <http://patriot.net/~shmuel>
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