Frank,

I  can only answer for me. We had specific functions, that no one could do on 
the VM.
I wrote clists,rexx execs and assembler mods. I just always thought it was part 
of my job.
No offense taken...it's a good question.

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com

On Aug 17, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Frank Swarbrick <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here's a question... hope no one gets offended...
> How many systems programmers do programming as part of their systems 
> programming job?
> Frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Scott Ford <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected] 
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 9:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!
>> 
>> We market our software though a company, who shall remain nameless, that 
>> calls them patches and system programmers are. System administrators. Maybe 
>> I am old school at least use the terminology right like you said Bobbie.
>> 
>> Scott ford
>> www.identityforge.com
>> 
>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Bobbie Justice <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> ditto. 
>>> 
>>> I'm getting irritated at stupid auditor questions. 
>>> 
>>> and mainframe ptfs are NOT called patches, at least get the terminology 
>>> right please.
>>> 
>>> Bobbie Justice 
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