On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:55:38 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

> on 09/10/2012  at 03:19 PM, Paul Gilmartin said:
>
>>On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:19:53 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >
>>>BTW, I saw a quote from an earlier message, but not the message
>>>itself, talking about reading directory blocks from a PDSE. For the
>>>record, those are not the actual PDSE directory blocks[1][2] but fake
>>>blocks made to look like they came from a PDS; ise DESERV if you want
>>>the actuial entries. And, yes, the TTR's are usable.
>>>
There was one ply in the thread between my question and your
indirect answer:

    https://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1209&L=ibm-main&P=R30395&1=ibm-main

>>DESERV provides the CONN_INTENT=HOLD parameter to cause
>>a held connection to the member.  I assume this is implicit with
>>BLDL.  I doubt that this is supported for sequential reading of fake
>>directory blocks.  So while the TTRs are instantaneously usable,  I
>>suspect that any change such as replacing a member will make at least
>>its TTR unusable.
> 
In that intervening ply, Charles quoted my question:

CM>It says that in Using Data Sets, 3.8.11 Reading a PDSE Directory:
CM>
CM>    You can read a PDSE directory sequentially just by opening the data set 
(without using positioning macros) and reading it.
CM>        ...
CM>        If you also want to read the keys (the name of the last member in 
that block), use BSAM and specify KEYLEN=8. 
CM>
CM>gil>It fakes it all.  It even fakes keys.  But does it return a usable TTR; 
one that can be used in a subsequent POINT?
CM>            ...

>In my message, "usable" referred to the TTR's returned by DESERV.
> 
You veered away from the topic of my question which clearly referred to
the fake directory blocks returned by reading a PDS directory sequentially,
and answered, "And, yes, ..." apparently referring to my question, but
instead describing the reply from DESERV.

Consider the question re-asked:  "Are TTRs in the fake directory blocks
returned by a sequential read of a PDSE usable?  What happens if the
member(s) are replaced in the interim?"

-- gil

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