Thanks John, haven't seen that ow before ...

Scott ford
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On Oct 6, 2012, at 2:12 PM, "John P. Baker" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> BIF = "Built-in Function"
> 
> John P. Baker
> President
> NGSSA, LLC
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> Subject: Re: Is there a correspondence between 64-bit IBM mainframes and
> PoOps editions levels?
> 
> Ok John, I will bite what's a BIF ?
> 
> Scott ford
> www.identityforge.com
> 
> Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll
> understand. - Chinese Proverb
> 
> 
> On Oct 6, 2012, at 8:49 AM, John Gilmore <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Randy Hudson wrote:
>> 
>> <begin extract>
>> I don't believe MVCIN was available on the 360/50; we used the TR 
>> instruction to reverse fields, or otherwise re-arrange them.
>> <end extract>
>> 
>> and he at once quite correct and utterly wrong.  As usual, it depends 
>> upon what "was available" is thought to mean.
>> 
>> There is and has "always" been a list of non-standard mainframe 
>> instructions that IBM can make available for a [small] fee.  Some 
>> shops use one or more of them, and others are unaware of them.
>> 
>> MVCIN is an instruction that shops that do text processing in a 
>> semitic language (or in Farsi, which, while Indo-european, is also 
>> written from right to left in an almost but not quite standard version 
>> of the Arabic alphabet) had an early felt need for.  IBM met that 
>> need, and MVCIN was available early in the Middle East, certainly by
>> 1971 when I first encountered it there.
>> 
>> It was, for example, installed on the mainframes of the National 
>> Iranian Oil Company  (Naft Melli) in Tehran and Abadan in the early 
>> 1970s; and I remember writing and installing a BIF that made it 
>> available in PL/I there.
>> 
>> John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
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