Frank,

In one environment it was at least a weekly occurrence. In others once a month and others every 6 months, In the "weekly" environment it was a lively change management adventure as we did have several outages (sometime entire sysplex) It was fraught with issues and maybe if we had been more aggressive with maintenance the outage might not have happened. But the boss bought off on the chances, so... We did not have the man power to stay current like we should have been in that type of environment, but the boss yelled a few times and chasing down the cause was not a witch hunt per se but we just tried to tell them about issues and that is all we could do. At times we would get DASD that had data on it from a previous installation. The DASD people just wiped it out without looking or caring. As for CPU's it was at times scary (at least for me) as we had so many issue with OEM vendors that We had so many serial numbers floating around it was a PITA. That was scarier (to me) that the upgrades. I won't even go into tape drives types.

Ed


Ed

On Nov 14, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Bonaduce, Frank wrote:

This ongoing discussion prompts a question: Are dynamic IODF changes actually so prevalent in most environments (especially in Production) that the condition warrants that much consideration ? I, for one, would tend to doubt it. If it is the case in a 'sandbox' or development type environment, it's likely a tolerable condition. The advantage of using established facilities like UCBSCAN is that you can exploit parameters, like IOCTOKEN, to indicate if there is something of this nature happening and allows you the option of whether or not to react to it. In the case of DASD, the recommendation for some time has been to PIN the UCB if exclusivity is required and subsequently UNPIN it when it is no longer needed. These operations, of course, require authorization.

Frank.
GSG Systems.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Sam Golob
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:34 AM
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Subject: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Hi Folks,

Somebody please enlighten me. If you're trying to scratch a dataset on a pack, and somebody else is in the middle of doing an IODF change at the time, what is the difference if you are obtaining a copy of the UCB (to determine what's on the disk pack), or the real UCB itself? I'm not expecting a complete answer from somebody, but I'd at least like a reference to a manual or manuals where the perspective and advantages/disadvantages of copied, (and captured) UCB's is explained, as opposed to the real UCB's. I want to read about it. Please show me where.

     Thanks.

     All the best........

Sam

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