Ted MacNEIL wrote: > The University of Waterloo dropped COBOL as a co-op requirement around that > time, and the 3033's went out in the earlier part of the decade. I graduated > in '81.
Ah, right. You're talking the academic side. I worked in Systems at UofW 1980-1986, and the IBM systems were going strong in that world when I left. Through no prescience or smarts or even remote inklings - rather, just simple DUMB LUCK - I believe I left at the peak of mainframes (mostly VM/SP!) at UofW. It was the next year that the new Provost came in, and within a few years, VM was gone; now even the Red Room is a memory. When I dabbled in CS in the early 80s, they were indeed not using VM much. There was a bit; I remember a friend taking an operating systems course that used VM, leaving a userid "idle" that turned out to be in a loop, spending $8,000 in funny money overnight. That was entertaining. And we certainly spent a lot of effort in those years developing and maintaining Student CMS (a fully padded cell environment). But the classes I remember were mostly things like Commodore SuperPET assembler, about which the TAs knew squat. I'd been writing 370 assembler for several years, and they didn't understand things like putting labels on EQU * (there was no DS 0H equivalent) *and marked me off for it*. Not that I'm bitter or anything (or veering off-topic!). Ah, the good old days... ...phsiii ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
