Hi Scott, While I've heard of zPDT, I don't really know/understand what is does or offers a vendor. Sounds like zPDT is an affordable and effective platform. Too bad some vendor did not use it to develop an z/OS EMR package for hospitals that already have a z/OS infrastructure.
Don > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Scott Ford > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:23 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points > > Don, > > Dude a lot of vendors, like ourselves run Z/Pdt > > Scott ford > www.identityforge.com > > Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and > I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb > > > On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Don Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > System z is not cheap (does it start around $1M?). I expect the > traditional > > mainframe operating systems, like z/OS, z/VM, etc., to have a > significant > > price tag. I'm not sure what the pricing is for the zLinux variety > of > > operating system. Free does not get you business class support. Add > to that > > the environment, DASD, etc., it's hard for the startup vendor to put > all > > that in his garage :-) > > > > It seems like they are trying to prevent the creation of smaller more > > affordable "mainframes". What happened to P/390, FLEX-ES? Is there > any way > > to legally run z/OS on Hercules? If a small vendor needs coupling > > facilities, I think he is out of luck. > > > > Don > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- > [email protected]] > >> On Behalf Of John McKown > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:42 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points > >> > >> I am not sure, but the PC in impinging on the z in many ways. IMO, > one > >> reason is that some very creative people can afford their own PC and > >> tools (especially if they use Linux). The investment is very low > >> compared to a z. And the "vendor" can then market the product to > many > >> more people. Most every office in the world has PC class servers. > Take > >> the EMR package. If it is priced correctly and easy to use, then the > >> market into local doctor's offices is immense compared to, say, only > >> into a major hospital (which could possibly afford a z). I know my > >> personal doctor has some sort of PC based software. I see them (and > my > >> dentist) using it. And the doctor no longer writes physical > >> prescriptions. He just enters it into his laptop; it then ends up > >> going to my pharmacy; and they send a text to my phone when it is > >> ready to pick up. I really don't see much of any reason for > >> "application level" code on the z any more. Things like DB2, maybe. > >> But CICS? Sorry, it is simply easier to create a "web" based > >> transaction using WAS or JBOSS or Tomcat on a server. Doing so is > more > >> cost efficient for our size (and shrinking) business. The only > reason > >> we continue with CICS/COBOL is that we do incremental changes. We > >> don't have the money to convert from CICS or batch COBOL to > something > >> else (likely Microsoft .NET based <shudder/>). > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Don Williams <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> In my company's case, it's not a matter of asking our vendor to > work > >> with > >>> IBM. The vendor already works with IBM, but has chosen to phase > out > >> their > >>> mainframe product and create a new one that runs on PC-based > servers. > >> For > >>> various reasons, the hospital decided to open the field and look > for > >> a new > >>> Electronic Medical Record (EMR) package across all platforms. My > >>> understanding is that there is no viable EMR package available on > the > >> z/OS > >>> platform. This made me wonder -- is there no EMR vendor who chose > to > >>> develop their product on the z/OS platform? I expect that > successful > >>> vendors carefully chose their platform(s). If they are not chosing > >> z/OS, > >>> why not? > >> > >> -- > >> Maranatha! <>< > >> John McKown > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM- > MAIN > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM- > MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
