> Funny though, because isn't this exactly what Time Sharing Option was, > when it was first introduced?
TSO was a way to run unprivileged applications interactively, with internal users, external users or a mixture. Authorized commands, TESTAUTH, etc. came much later. CP=67 is a better model for users who need to tinker with the OS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of kekronbekron [000002dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 11:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe co-op Would love to know more about what your FICON buddy is working on Grant. If you wanna share (prefer off-list?), please email :) Unless IBM explicitly sets up college courses or NDA-tied free-roam access or whatever, it's only going to be the likes of zAcademy, i.e., restricted lab environments to basically market at the command-line, much like walking the dotten line in an acquarium/zoo/etc. (if you turn to your right, you can issue 2 commands to Spark on Z) Funny though, because isn't this exactly what Time Sharing Option was, when it was first introduced? - KB ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, July 3, 2020 9:48 PM, Grant Taylor <0000023065957af1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On 7/3/20 10:12 AM, Grant Taylor wrote: > > > I know multiple people that have CPCs. But they don't currently have > > DASD. I think at least one of them has a line on legal licenses for > > z/OS for his CPC. > > One of the people I know is developing his own FICON connected DASD by > reading any and all documents he can get his hands on. > > What do we, as the mainframe community, and IBM, as the big name, need > to do to encourage these extremely creative, resourceful, and driven > people better access to a functioning mainframe so that they can use > their creative talents and drive to help further the mainframe? > > There are a group of hobbyists and enthusiasts that have taken MVS 3.8j, > which decidedly does not include REXX or prerequisites therefor, and > backported (?) REXX to it, including re-creating any prerequisites. > > This is the creative and enthusiastic spirit that created Unix 50 years > ago and helped Linux become what it is today. Just think for a moment > where the mainframe could be in 10 or 20 years if even some of these > creative efforts were directed at enhancing the mainframe. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Grant. . . . > unix || die > > ------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
