Wikipedia is not google. Google is an attempt at a search engine, and that URL is a rwedirect URL that lets google track the use of the link. Some of the article on wiki are of high quality. Others? Well, I trust wiki as a source of references ;-)
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Tony Thigpen [t...@vse2pdf.com] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 7:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? Bob, I was referring to your "Wikipedia (https://secure-web.cisco.com/1KI3faUsQ4YEpgh7TyZ4fLSApgKA8S4U6_YCt5N7I9n70WHQJlTRhnwY585_ptp9A0THTRBN2o2Rx306X21ywdEePy1x4O_8UxlPcpzs_aP1veOkERadnjzsak0KEEFxEdZKLnoptrQcN2EzhKZIG9JPbcH9K_2aGl8-5a4UuKjiiMGsfbr5UycCe7JnMawJwMf3W2W-BNzH-PwYujuTPsK9JK9JGHHKjFFdVpCCvGZA1i3pz7Kmd3JlQCXrbqgbbeJi9HvtGz_k6UrRZOVwREOVatIdIP4ATkdKMmLYz5EmMqlV-LgbQotYi-hCBm6pLY3ehNRS66ZkWSB74FlkexXgACUIIHFpfseZE5_GuPS_PsxfrWSLdjdzkuqWwpfR2FYA8DzEns3lb49R6U9ofdnkB9IfXpigOuG69R54YnxEjARG3XEcbmSMwY6TLNCmB/https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAluminium%29 says this about the name:" quote when I said that google is not an authority. Anybody can write just about anything into google. Most teachers will not allow quotes from google due to the mess that google is in. The people at Merrian-Webster have always been considered authoritative. If we can't trust the people that produce of the the top dictionaries, then we are lost. In this case, I was saying that "here is a much more authoritative site that backs up most of the story posted on google." Tony Thigpen Bob Bridges wrote on 7/20/20 2:04 AM: > Always interesting, if you like words (and I do). Thanks. > > "Google", you say? Google isn't the source of my information, only the > warehouse (so to speak). The first source I quoted was Mr Davy himself. But > maybe you meant Wikipedia; a lot of people express varying amounts of > derision when they hear Wikipedia mentioned. > > --- > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 > > /* The arguments against state-controlled churches apply with equal force to > state-run schools. No free society allows the state to claim authority over > the mind. -Joseph Sobran */ > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Tony Thigpen > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 18:19 > > Personally, I prefer a more authoritative source than Google, but it is > almost the same story: > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1zHQtBmJvC1vVJ0vW-l7ndshrJmSTHAKKvrtUdN8uEe6vxdo1GOUouThBioS83Z0U0bfb4Q5O8Yt8E0ZnP9X6C05s9EsWXz36AyMlvxc-6yK2lncIOIUii4SjSvjCPu5vuv3BCSKNqm4MavRaqdeIeahTGtkdhDkOo-9QvI4o3y-AIZIynL1iSBAjSv6ET1zY0Wnzsh_4-AhgtCYuB7Y1FFtmvSfvNsOEyg-94-Rf8Xw4pPgHLaBq8kCDUG9m7dh0GIeUZEkxMfwrE-XkW6vkojSG7UCcrtypIOw5sGJ6SAqnmn3-Cy37KUwaZ4bwckKs7OJQYmbbReNfe5wkq-nq4Lxddf3NFloCKHcGZ0O9P0phWSkFryRCxuf4dndtiq0FTU_1QgJGxMaA-wuWF1rTaqpMcQh7m5SvsdHAuMeKcRBe877K5k5FQK0OdEGwqPsO9V2rJaJyDr_CGTKaUK6W_Q/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.merriam-webster.com%2Fwords-at-play%2Faluminum-vs-aluminium > > --- Bob Bridges wrote on 7/19/20 6:09 PM: >> Because I know you were all breathlessly awaiting the verdict on the great >> "aluminum"/"aluminium" controversy, I went to find more information. At >> https://books.google.com/books?id=YjMwAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA201 you can find a page >> in _Elements of Chemical Philosophy_ by Humphrey Davy (who first isolated >> aluminum), published in 1812; here he talks about "aluminum" (a metal to be >> found in alumina, which in turn was processed from alum). Wikipedia >> (https://secure-web.cisco.com/1KI3faUsQ4YEpgh7TyZ4fLSApgKA8S4U6_YCt5N7I9n70WHQJlTRhnwY585_ptp9A0THTRBN2o2Rx306X21ywdEePy1x4O_8UxlPcpzs_aP1veOkERadnjzsak0KEEFxEdZKLnoptrQcN2EzhKZIG9JPbcH9K_2aGl8-5a4UuKjiiMGsfbr5UycCe7JnMawJwMf3W2W-BNzH-PwYujuTPsK9JK9JGHHKjFFdVpCCvGZA1i3pz7Kmd3JlQCXrbqgbbeJi9HvtGz_k6UrRZOVwREOVatIdIP4ATkdKMmLYz5EmMqlV-LgbQotYi-hCBm6pLY3ehNRS66ZkWSB74FlkexXgACUIIHFpfseZE5_GuPS_PsxfrWSLdjdzkuqWwpfR2FYA8DzEns3lb49R6U9ofdnkB9IfXpigOuG69R54YnxEjARG3XEcbmSMwY6TLNCmB/https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAluminium%29 >> says this ! about the name: >> >> "British chemist Humphry Davy, who performed a number of experiments aimed >> to isolate the metal, is credited as the person who named the element. In >> 1808, he suggested the metal be named alumium in an article on his >> electrochemical research which was published in Philosophical Transactions >> of the Royal Society. This suggestion was criticized by contemporary >> chemists from France, Germany, and Sweden, who insisted the metal should be >> named for the oxide, alumina, from which it would be isolated. In 1812, Davy >> published a chemistry textbook in which he settled on the name aluminum, >> thus producing the modern name. However, its spelling and pronunciation >> varies: aluminum is in use in the United States and Canada while aluminium >> is in use elsewhere." >> >> That sounds plausible to me. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bob Bridges [mailto:robhbrid...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 17:34 >> >> Aha! Yet a third story; in this one Davy started out with "aluminum" and >> the Europeans ~added~ the 'i'. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Joe Monk >> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 07:22 >> >> The British Scientist (Davy) who discovered ALUMINUM named it that. It is >> we Americans who are using the correct name ... the British press felt that >> it should be in line with sodium and potassium and thus added to the >> spelling. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
