Is fiche still a thing?

On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:34 AM Paul Gilmartin <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 09:24:32 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
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> >As a microfische job, it is a collection of printouts, not used for input.
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> ???
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> Write-only memory?  Why bother?  And why keep them?
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> Would a temp DSN be suitable?
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> >On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:51 AM Paul Gilmartin wrote:
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> >> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 23:10:24 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote:
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> >> >I don't see that you can do that with tapes, the hdr1 won't match the
> new DSN.
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> >> So the tapes are labeled.  Alas.
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> >> I'm curious: how do the users access those data sets in subsequent jobs?
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> >> Examine the logs of the creating jobs for allocation messages and code
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> >> VOL=SER in the later jobs?
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> >> Cataloging unique DSNs hardly alleviates the problem -- it might
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> >> aggravate it: 3 times as many keystrokes to modify -- two DSN
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> >> qualifiers versus one volser.
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> >> How would you deal with DSN collisions?  With "thousands" of
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> >> generated names this is highly likely:
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> >>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem
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> >> If you do nothing, one job with DISP=(NEW,CATLG) will wait for the
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> >> other to complete; write the data set then get NOT CATALOGUED.
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> >> There's a meta-process problem here.  At some point programmers
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> >> should have been instructed not to create thousands of uncatalogued
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> >> data sets with identical names.
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> >> If you adopt unique catalogued DSNs, might DASD be a medium
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> >> preferable to tape?
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> -- gil
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