Radoslaw, I would be happy to have you as my teacher. 

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Executable - that could mean REXX or CLIST.
In fact people usually say:
load module - nevermind what is proper name of member/program in PDSE binary - 
could be ambiguous binary program - better a little EXE files/members - just 
analogy to PC-DOS or Windows world compiled program - one could discuss it is 
compiled and linked.
RECFM=U library - usually correct, but generally speaking incorrect.

IMHO it is IBM fault.
For such cases it is IBM role to give us "the only proper name", just to 
simplify communication and make manuals more clear.
Let's imagine some neologism like BINLOAD - for binary programs, a MEMLIB for 
PDS or PDSE, and BINLIB as MEMLIB for BINLOADs.

I used to teach z/OS basics a lot, so I had to clarify such issues in limited 
timeframe and the explanation has to be clear, not covering all possible 
nuances and cases.
BTW: Covid stopped classes completely so I miss teaching. Not because of money, 
but I miss contact with people, discussions, etc.

--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland






W dniu 28.10.2020 o 17:09, Frank Swarbrick pisze:
> Load module or program object should be easy: executable, or binary 
> executable.
>
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> behalf of Seymour J Metz <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 8:48 AM
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Generic name for PDS/PDSE
>
> I use "PDS(E)", but what's the generic for "load module or program object"?
>
> I spell auto-correct as "auto-defect"; we hates it, precious. Of course, some 
> of the "corrections" are hilarious.
>
> I would interpret "MVS library" as DSNTYPE=LIBRARY, but I wouldn't bet on 
> that being correct.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> ________________________________________
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on 
> behalf of Charles Mills [[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Generic name for PDS/PDSE
>
> Grrr. As a frequent writer of documentation I struggle with that one.
>
> I would say either "PDS(E)" (which my PC keeps trying to auto-correct 
> to PDS€) or a preamble something like
>
> "In this document, the term PDS means either a Partitioned Dataset (PDS) or a 
> Partitioned Dataset Extended (PDSE) unless the context clearly demands 
> otherwise."
>
> I personally at least would have to think "what the heck does he mean?" every 
> time I encountered "MVS library."
>
> Charles
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 2:17 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Generic name for PDS/PDSE
>
> Is there a standard "generic" name for PDS/PDSE?  Is it "PDS(E)"?  Or maybe 
> something like "MVS library" or "MVS dataset library"?

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