Even large shops who are relatively up-to-date in z/OS release level have not 
made z/OSMF available to application teams in any form.  Most are limiting that 
access to systems teams and even they don’t much like it from the posts I have 
seen on this list.

There have to be less intrusive / complex-to-implement--shop-wide alternatives, 
and an updated or open-sourced IND$FILE would provide one such.

ISV's are a different kind of organization from shops that use their software, 
and are pushed much harder by IBM changes to adopt the latest whiz-bangs or 
risk being left behind.  Application shops are far more conservative and even 
backwards in adopting them.

It isn’t the right way, but it is a fact of application life.

I do have FTP to and from my employer's systems, but not every application shop 
allows that.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Andrew Rowley
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IND$FILE and zFS?

On 29/03/2021 10:09 am, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

> However everytime someone ask about IND$FILE of transfer of 600 files 
> we see "FTP is NOT an option". Why? Well, there are reasons. Maybe not 
> reasonable, but there are. Last, but not least: still unsolved! So 
> still we will observe such questions and problems.

I understand there are sites that prohibit FTP. I am sure it is less common to 
prohibit HTTPS. There may be sites that don't allow file transfers to/from the 
mainframe - but I doubt IBM wants to enhance IND$FILE to help people circumvent 
site policy on file transfers.

> zOSMF? I'm sorry, but I bet it is less common than FTP. And as far as 
> I can guess it cannot be automated like FTP (read: batch).
> And of course one size does not fit all. Some would need compression 
> of transmitted data (what bandwidth do you have?), some would prefer 
> IND$FILE and some just FTP or FTPS or SFTP.

IBM obviously intends that z/OSMF will be used everywhere as a required 
component of z/OS.

I have automated both z/OSMF and FTP and I would say z/OSMF is far easier. It 
can be done from any language that can make HTTPS requests i.e. you can start 
with curl. The REST APIs are probably the best and most useful feature of 
z/OSMF.

Compression is not required, but it is an option selectable using the
Accept-Encoding: gzip header, i.e. a standard feature supported by most clients.

I see nothing wrong with using FTP etc. But if you need new features they might 
already be there in z/OSMF, and there is pretty much zero chance they will be 
added to IND$FILE.

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