Hello Joe,

Thank you very much for your information.

I understand that I have a format problem because apparently the files were
downloaded through IND $ FILE without the CRLF option.
How can I recreate them? The originals no longer exist in DASD.
Can you detail how I could solve it?

Thank you very much in advance.

Kind Regards

Hilario

El lun, 19 abr 2021 a las 18:07, Joe Monk (<[email protected]>) escribió:

> Hilario,
>
> So, you have a format problem. The format is IEBCOPY unload to  a
> sequential file on DASD. BUT that was then run thru IND$FILE TWICE, without
> specifying the CRLF option to insert CRLFs on the PC to denote record ends.
> So, you  have a  PC file there with  no end-of-record markers. Once you can
> re-create those, there is high probability  you can reverse the process to
> get it  back to a straight sequential file and re-run it  thru IEBCOPY.
>
> Joe
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 10:49 AM Hilario Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hello Joe,
> >
> > The files were downloaded from a Z / OS in 2007. I don't know how and
> with
> > what format. You are correct.
> >
> > Would you recommend me to take any other action to solve the problem?
> >
> > Thank you very much in advance.
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > Hilario
> >
> > El lun, 19 abr 2021 a las 14:23, Joe Monk (<[email protected]>)
> > escribió:
> >
> > > OK ...  maybe now we're getting  somewhere...
> > >
> > > I think we  are having a case of deja vu here. Going back thru the
> > archives
> > > I found where the exact same dataset was created in 2007:
> > >
> > >  -Original Message-
> > >  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > >  Behalf Of David Day
> > >  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:34 PM
> > >  To: [email protected]
> > >  Subject: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not
> successful
> > >
> > >  I used IEBCOPY to create a sequentail backup of an ISPF  panel
> > >  library.  I then used IND$FILE to transfer the dataset to my PC.
> > Thought
> > >  I'd test the backup out by transferring back to the mainframe, and got
> > the
> > >  following when I tried to use IEBCOPY to load the members back.
> > >
> > >  STEP1COPY  INDD=SYSUT1,OUTDD=SYSUT2 GENERATED STATEMENT
> > >  IEB1128I *** COPYR1 (1ST PDSU PHYSICAL RECORD)
> > >    009400   1810 180C0100 00CA6D0F 02001810  |  _ |
> > >    009410 0010  00509000 1810 3030200F 7FF8  | 8|
> > >    009420 0020  0D0C000F E5A2 2250 0002006B  |Vs,|
> > >    009430 0030  008F 0080 0F000B08 A912  |z   |
> > >    009440 0040  7F00 80807FF8 8800 0012  | 8  h |
> > >    009450 0050  6A78 1810 0200 9440  |  |   m |
> > >    009460 0060  6AA8 0C0067E8 6AA0 8800  |  |y   Y  |   h |
> > >    009470 0070    0002 3F000900  ||
> > >    009480 0080  0612 20007FF8    |  8|
> > >    009490 0090       ||
> > >  IEB120I SYSUT1   VALIDATION ERROR
> > >  IEB178I NOT AN IEBCOPY UNLOADED DATA SET - 1ST PHYSICAL RECORD NOT 64
> > >  BYTES LONG - ACTUAL VALUE IS X'001810'
> > >
> > >   The IND$FILE for the GET or PUT operation did not specify CRLF as a
> > >  parameter.  Can someone tell me what I did wrong, or if there is a
> > >  'better' way to backup PDS data on a PC.  Thanks.
> > >
> > >  --Dave Day
> > >
> > >
> > > So,  now  you know what  you  have. An ISPF panel library, that was
> > > unloaded via  IEBCOPY, then IND$FILE to a PC without  specifying  CRLF
> > then
> > > back to the mainframe.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 4:04 AM Hilario Garcia <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much for your answer. I had already tried the solution
> > you
> > > > recommended and it gave me the following problem:
> > > >
> > > > IEBCOPY  COPY      INDD=SYSUT1,OUTDD=SYSUT2         GENERATED
> STATEMENT
> > > >
> > > > IEB1128I *** COPYR1 (1ST PDSU PHYSICAL RECORD)
> > > >
> > > >   0094A0 FFF8  00000000 00000000 7FE40000 7FE00000  |        "U  "\
> |
> > > >
> > > >   0094B0 0008  00CA6D0F 020018B0 00509000 00807FF8  |  _      &
> "8|
> > > >
> > > >   0094C0 0018  3030200F 00007FF8 2721000F E5A20000  |      "8    Vs
> |
> > > >
> > > >   0094D0 0028  22520000 0002006B 00DE0000 00800000  |       ,
> |
> > > >
> > > >   0094E0 0038  01000B07 69300000 7F000000 80807FF8  |        "
>  "8|
> > > >
> > > >   0094F0 0048  00008800 0011F000 00006540 00007FE4  |  h   0
>  "U|
> > > >
> > > >   009500 0058  02000000 000094E8 00006570 0C000014  |      mY
> |
> > > >
> > > >   009510 0068  00006568 00008800 00000000 00000000  |      h
>  |
> > > >
> > > >   009520 0078  00000000 16000400 0611F000 20007FF8  |          0
>  "8|
> > > >
> > > >   009530 0088  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000  ||
> > > >
> > > >   009540 0098  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000  ||
> > > >
> > > > IEB120I SYSUT1   VALIDATION ERROR
> > > >
> > > > IEB178I NOT AN IEBCOPY UNLOADED DATA SET - 1ST PHYSICAL RECORD NOT 64
> > > BYTES
> > > > LONG
> > > > IEB1030I DDNAME SYSUT1   REFERS TO PDSU DATA SET ON VOLUME SSSSSS
> NAMED
> > > > IBMUSER.
> > > > IEB1030I DDNAME SYSUT2   REFERS TO PDS  DATA SET ON VOLUME SSSSSS
> NAMED
> > > > IBMUSER.
> > > > IEB166I NO MEMBERS LOADED TO DATA SET REFERENCED BY SYSUT2
> > > >
> > > > IEB151I JOB HAS TERMINATED WITH ERROR(S)
> > > >
> > > > IEB147I END OF JOB - 8 WAS HIGHEST SEVERITY CODE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you recommend any other possible solution.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards
> > > >
> > > > Hilario
> > > >
> > > > El lun, 19 abr 2021 a las 10:29, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform
> Services)
> > (<
> > > > [email protected]>) escribió:
> > > >
> > > > > Classification: Public
> > > > >
> > > > > I wonder if these are IEBCOPY unload format - that is, IEBCOPY
> from a
> > > PDS
> > > > > to a PS.  It's been years since I had to deal with those, probably
> > > since
> > > > I
> > > > > installed products directly from a vendor tape (one of those round
> > > things
> > > > > with the write-protect ring).
> > > > >
> > > > > IEBCOPY seems to create unload format dasd datasets (here, at
> least)
> > as
> > > > >
> > > > > Organization  . . . : PS
> > > > > Record format . . . : VS
> > > > > Record length . . . : 32736
> > > > > Block size  . . . . : 32740
> > > > >
> > > > > Worth uploading one of those files as binary and then using an
> > IEBCOPY
> > > PS
> > > > > to PDS to reload it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy Styles
> > > > > z/Series System Programmer
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Hilario Garcia
> > > > > Sent: 19 April 2021 06:42
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Fwd: Format PDS unloaded on an CD
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > > > De: Hilario Garcia <[email protected]>
> > > > > Date: lun, 19 abr 2021 a las 7:40
> > > > > Subject: Format PDS unloaded on an CD
> > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much for your contributions.
> > > > > I have done multiple tests with different utilities (XMIT, FTP,
> IND $
> > > > FILE,
> > > > > AMATERSE) and I have not been able to download them in a valid
> > format.
> > > > > Attached I send in hexadecimal format the beginning of one of the
> PDS
> > > > > (loaded as FB, lrecl = 80) and it seems that at the beginning of
> the
> > > file
> > > > > is the directory of a PDS partitioned file. If the file is loaded
> as
> > FB
> > > > and
> > > > > 80 bytes long, you can see the code in EBCDIC format. The original
> > file
> > > > is
> > > > > in format binary and I have loaded it in binary.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would appreciate your help in this regard.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Hilario
> > > > >
> > > > >
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