David Devine wrote:

>Different strokes for different folks. Does any one really use native tso 
>these days for file manipulation? how retro :-)

How retro? Hmmm, did you ever need to recover back to that native TSO (READY 
prompt plus boring three stars) to resolve something unpleasant? 

In ancient days, while practising Ancient Art of Computing during MVS/ESA days, 
I have been there, done that, because that CLIST library with the correct logon 
CLIST was not available due some secondhand asshole varied the volser OFF via 
Hardware Config setup. I could logon, well sort of, using alternative logon 
CLIST, but the CLIST stopped at one statement. (last one which was an ALLOC 
thing) I redo that ALLOC statement and then redo a ISPF command for starting my 
ISPF panels. All tedious typing from a hardcopy printouts (shame you 
tree-killers!) of that CLIST. Once in ISPF, I could change the logon CLIST and 
have someone else to test it out. Big fun while the whole planet was waiting... 
;-)

Oh, the person who did that Hardware Config was of course out of city for added 
exciting fun. ;-/

Since that fun, we have a few emergency logon procs to avoid above painful 
stunts and tricks and drama...

>Yep, practically anything that's poorly coded. Ever forget to initialise a 
>variable? or delstack? results not always as designed! :-)      

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You will awake debug demons. ;-)

>> Can contention occur within a single address space?
>With poorly written code or implementation? been there so i wouldn't be 
>suprised, hence "sneaky feeling"  :-)  

Suprised? Thats a new fun word ;-)

Some products can only be used in one ISPF panel, not on both or more ISPF 
panels, due to bad design or allocation methods.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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