He obviously didn't star on a 704.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Spiegel [dspiegel...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 4:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 3270 emulator / telnet with encryption Hi Richard, This reminds me of a story. Approximately 26 years ago, myself and a colleague were invited to a multi-vendor meeting at a customer site to help solve a problem. My colleague had the misfortune of pronouncing "SAP" as "sap" (rather than Ess-Ay-Pee). The SAP guys there went stark raving mad and were almost screaming at my colleague for this perceived infraction. I suggested to my colleague that it was probably time for a B-E-E-R. Regards, David On 2021-05-07 16:19, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote: > M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E. Who remembers that song? > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of > Radoslaw Skorupka > Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 4:16 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: 3270 emulator / telnet with encryption > > [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] > > Poland: > kicks for CICS > C-P-A-C-F for CPACF (*) , (**) > > * Polish pronunciacion of letters. To start a war: we have consistent rules. > Not like Cincinnati and car. ;-) Actually it's very similar to Latin. > > ** While CICS is rather not used very much on the streets, the CPACF is > almost unknown even in among mainframers. > I used to teach Introduction to ICSF and mainframe crypto HW. BTW: In the > past I had to explain mainframe CE IBMers what is CCF and how to enable it. > Fortunately I forbade to drop anything from mainframe add-ons and we found > enablement diskette. It was valid for given serial number, so it wouldn't be > nice to loose it. Old story. Few years later some CE performed checkout test > on z800 and ...cleared all the master keys in CCF. Fortunately I had some > procedures and backup copies... > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > (looking for new job) > Lodz, Poland > > > > > > > W dniu 07.05.2021 o 21:24, Eric D Rossman pisze: >> I'm probably the odd one out, but I say "SEE-pack-eff" and "kicks" for >> CPACF and CICS and I'm on the east coast of the US. >> >> And, yes, we (ICSF) do exploit the new z15 CPACF functions available >> with >> MSAE9 (Compute Digital Signature Authentication (KDSA)) for EC key >> pair generation, digital signature generate/verify, and key agreement >> for curves P-256, P-384, P-521, Ed25519, and Ed448. Since System SSL >> calls us for those curves, they get the performance benefit as well. >> >> Eric Rossman, CISSP® >> ICSF Cryptographic Security Development z/OS Enabling Technologies >> edros...@us.ibm.com >> >> IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> wrote on >> 05/07/2021 12:57:01 PM: >> >>> From: Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw >> <0000032fff1be9b4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> >>> Tom, >>> >>> CPACF is considered part of weaponry by the US government and so it >>> has to be capable of being disabled for those countries where >>> exportation of encryption is restricted by US Govt arms rules. This >>> is why it has to be explicitly selected. >>> >>> CPACF is actually a pre-requisite for enabling a Crypto Express >>> device. CPACF is used extensively in TLS. TLS uses clear key >>> encryption for data transport and this is where the majority of >>> encryption work is performed in TLS. However, I see the latest CPACF >>> on Z15s have some new asymmetric functions, so maybe CPACF can be >>> used in the TLS handshake as well now. >>> >>> Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On >>> Behalf Of Tom Brennan >>> Sent: 07 May 2021 16:55 >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>> Subject: Re: 3270 emulator / telnet with encryption >>> >>> On 5/7/2021 6:19 AM, Phil Smith III wrote: >>> >>>> It's a reasonably safe bet that any machine today has CPACF; that >>>> was not always true, of course. >>> When IBM or a business partner configures a new machine, there's a >>> checkmark for CPACF (zero charge), but it defaults to unchecked. So >>> when ordering a new machine I'd suggest the customer ask to make sure >>> that free feature code is supplied. >>> >>> If the machine comes with a crypto card, CPACF is automatically >>> selected and required. No need to ask in that case. >>> >>> Side subject - so how do you pronounce CPACF? I always say each >>> letter, but some IBM crypto folks say C-Pack-F >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > Confidentiality notice: > This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally > privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended > recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this > message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any > dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail message is strictly > prohibited. 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