On 5/14/2021 9:53 PM, Alan Altmark wrote:

Help me with this, Ed.  Did you receive a proposal that didn't include STP?  Or 
at least offer it as an option?  If it wasn't offered, that bothers me.  IMO, 
all proposals should include cryptos (where not prohibited by law), a pair of 
copper OSAs, six or more fiber OSAs (speed and type customer choice), a pair of 
RoCE cards, STP, STP links, and a pair of HMCs (unless you already have them).  
 If it's an IFL box, then add some FCP adapters.  Getting this stuff in the 
initial sale is going to be cheaper than adding it later.

Then if the client wants to reduce the price by redlining items, that's on 
them, but I think IBM or the BP should be bringing a full function proposal.

Are you just making this stuff up as you go along? <smh> This is absolutely *not* how proposals are built for existing customers -- at least not in my 40+ years of experience. If IBM threw in everything but the kitchen sink, customers would get upset.

Whether an MES or a "net new" machine, IBM and/or the business partner takes your existing configuration and upgrades it to the latest kit. It has always been thus. You can add stuff, of course.

Car radios used to be extra. Now they come free and standard. Historical lineage notwithstanding, 21st-Century mainframes should come with STP free and standard. Not doing so has already proved itself time and time again to be a source of embarrassment for our platform...


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