It took some days for me to put some thought into this pricing aspect. From a 
guy who is fascinated with the entire Z platform and all the things there to 
discover I am totally going to get the license. As long as IBM decides to make 
it available in Germany, of course.

Now, if I put myself 5 years back when I didn't even know the Mainframe existed 
and someone would have told me to pay $120 to be allowed to install an 
operating system I had never heard of on my computer to work on a weird looking 
screen, be limited by an 80 column wide editing session and that it is very 
difficult to set up a connection with a graphical editor.. I am having a really 
hard time to believe I would have said yes to buying it. (I am being a bit 
ironic here.)

Perhaps for everyone who is part of this group it's a different story. I am 
just doubting that this so called "Learner's Edition" will actually attract new 
people (learner?) to the platform. Maybe this is just a move to lower the 
numbers of not-so-legal installations of z/OS on an emulator and controlling 
it. As a newbie I would not be sold and probably move on with all the other 
technologies I can use free of charge and that are still fun. I understand that 
it won't just be free. For university students, however, it should be free of 
charge. For instance, check out the GitHub Student Developer Pack 
https://education.github.com/pack. So much free stuff.
Put zPDT in there and I bet some folks will dig into it and maybe some day end 
up in this mailing list.

Cheers - David

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Jerry Whitteridge
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Agreed - $120 is something affordable by most, and I'm really excited to see 
this coming out

Jerry Whitteridge
jerry.whitteri...@albertsons.com
Manager Mainframe Systems & HP Non-Stop
Albertsons Companies

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Grant Taylor
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On 9/24/21 9:41 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
> Like Ray, for years I've been advocating something free or nearly free 
> with every IBM manager I happen to see.  No effect so far.  If this 
> works it could be a big change for future education.

I feel like $120 / year is well within the reach of any student or hobbyist 
that wants to learn.  It's *SIGNIFICANTLY* more approachable than the $5k entry 
point for other options for professionals from IBM.

It seems as if the announcement on IBM's site may have been slightly premature 
(O(weeks)) as it has purportedly been withdrawn and someone else in the 
community has said that it should be available in mid October.

I'm very much looking forward to seeing how this rolls out.  I love the idea of 
having an IBM supported way to run contemporary z/OS along side my well 
seasoned P/390-E.  :-)



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