On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 11:35:57 -0500, Bob Bridges  wrote:

>     ... I could see no way I could use it for my client's work.  My job has a 
> lot to do with extracting data for my clients, but I also write tools for 
> their people to use to get the same data time after time, and really I ought 
> to do that in a language that > a) someone there can maintain after I leave, 
> and of course > b) doesn't have to be downloaded ...
>
With some clients it should be reasonable to ask:
o Whether they have ooRexx a priori.
o What implementation they prefer (provided they ask for
  exclusive IP rights.)

> especially for the purpose.  The languages that are available more or less 
> universally are my palette, in other words, when working for my clients.  In 
> Windows that's VBA and VBS, .bat, and I'm sure I'll add Jscript to my 
> repertoire eventually; on the mainframe it's REXX, maybe CLIST, JCL, and if I 
> need a compiled language PL/1 or COBOL.
>
>    ....  And I've never heard about ooREXX being available on z/OS.  How do 
> you manage that?  Color me interested.
>
It's ironic:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_REXX>

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rony G. Flatscher
>Sen t: Monday, January 3, 2022 09:02
>    ... tested one semester REXX with a very surprising effect: the BA 
> students can learn programming much faster in REXX than in any other 
> programming language (including Python taught by colleagues)!
>
Contrast with CMS/TSO Pipe lines which is a lexical nightmare
inherited from CMS command line conventions and unplanned
eexpansion.

>The secret lies in employing Object REXX for teaching as it includes 
>structures/types and the powerful message paradigm in addition to all of the 
>classic REXX capabilities. In a four hour lecture these BA students (some 
>total newbies, some already with programming skills) learn REXX and then the 
>object oriented concepts/features of Object REXX in a single semester (four 
>months).
>    ...
>IBM and the REXX Language assocation (https://www.rexxla.org) entered into 
>successful negotiations to hand over the source code of the IBM product Object 
>REXX and since about 15 years there is an "open object Rexx (ooRexx, oorexx)" 
>interpreter with source code that has been constantly maintained, developed 
>further and that gets released by RexxLA. 
>
>There have been also IBM mainframe shops that have started to use ooRexx on 
>mainframes in the meantime.

-- gil

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