agree 100% and maybe I'm wandering off somewhat off topic, but;

what could go wrong bit me once when trying to help a teammate with a CA product upgrade, his CA90's INIT routine was not updated with the new version, so the product was not working, I found the issue and offered a solution, only problem was attempting to REINIT a routine that was not INITED caused reoccurring abends, I don't recall the exact abends, but any address space creation or an address space termination caused an abend to the point where nothing would start, IPL was the only solution :(

Carmen

On 1/20/2022 10:30 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Asking "what can possible go wrong?" is good. Believing that nothing can go 
wrong is suicidal.

No doubt you will still miss some failure modes, but looking for them and 
developing ways to deal with them will pay off in the long run.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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The premise is "what can possible go wrong" is the foundation for too many 
wrongs ๐Ÿ˜Š


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Matt Hogstrom
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 09:38 AM
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Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: What not to do on a z/OS system...

I was working at an HMO in California and troubleshooting a networking problem 
with the Network Control dudes.  One of them thought that reseating a token 
ring cable would fix the problem.  As he was reaching down I formed the word 
STOP when he deftly unplugged the cable and said, โ€œThis will only take a 
second.โ€  In which second he took down all the call center 3270โ€™s across 
Southern California.  He said it was only a brief interruption.

Management disagreed and instituted the NO cable work except during a weekend 
window with  a change record even for troubleshooting.

Matt Hogstrom
PGP key 0F143BC1

On Jan 20, 2022, at 10:04, Richards, Robert B. 
(CTR)<000001c91f408b9e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>  wrote:

Reminds me of a true story where very randomly our terminals would go
offline and then come back after a minute or two. We would check the
controller and everything looked fine. Then one day, someone got a
Coke out of the soda machine while we were standing there trying to
figure things out. The controller lost power, however briefly, and
IML'd itself.  The next day, the controller had been moved elsewhere.
๐Ÿ˜Š

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