There is a difference between "shortage of mainframe programmers" and "shortage 
of mainframe programmers willing to work for substandard wages and conditions". 
One can exist without the other.

As to corporations, ther is no such that in the real world as a Platonic 
corporation. Corporations are staffed by people, and they put their personal 
objectives above the good of the corporation. In a well run corporations, the 
policies and procedures are designed to align the goals of the employees to the 
goals of the corporations. Tat applies to the boardroom just as much as to the 
peons. If an employee can increase his bounuses at the expense of the 
corporations lomg term profits, then the employee will do so, whether he be the 
janitor of the CEO.

Executives who know that they will be in a new job before their decisions cause 
losses will take the money and run.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Bob 
Bridges [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 9:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Trouble getting new mainframe staff?

Oh, piffle.  Mainframe installations are hiring Indian mainframers, to some 
extent, sure; but that simply proves that there are still mainframers to be 
hired, in India if nowhere else.  It's no part of the shortage-of-mainframers 
problem.

As for "corporate greed", corporations want to reduce costs, yes -- and how is 
that different from anyone else?  In trying to reduce costs corporations 
sometimes make short-sighted decisions and later rue them -- and, again, how is 
that different from you and me?

---
Bob Bridges, [email protected], cell 336 382-7313

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it was designed to do.  The body was shaped by the need to run long distances 
on resilient turf, to run very fast for short distances, to climb trees, and to 
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
esmie moo
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 12:28

 No surprise.  All the Mainframers lost their jobs when their positions were 
outsourced to India, Brazil, Philippines because of corporate greed.

--- On Sunday, March 20, 2022, 08:50:38 a.m. EDT, Mark Regan 
<[email protected]> wrote:

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