TAKE THIS OFF LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doug Fuerst
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Bill Johnson" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 21-Mar-22 13:04:18
Subject: Re: Trouble getting new mainframe staff?
Joe gets up at6 a.m. and fills hiscoffeepot with water to prepare his morning
coffee. The water is clean and goodbecause some tree-hugging liberal fought for
minimum water-quality standards.With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his
daily medication. Hismedications are safe to take because some stupid commie
liberal fought to ensuretheir safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 ofhis medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan
because *someliberal* union workers fought their employers for paid medical
insurance - nowJoe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and
eggs. Joe's baconis safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws
to regulate themeat packing industry.
In the morningshower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly
labeled with eachingredient and its amount in the total contents because some
crybaby liberalfought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and
how much itcontained.
Joe dresses,walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean
becausesome environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries
frompolluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his
government-subsidizedride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking
and transportationfees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable
publictransportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins hiswork day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits,
retirement,paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members
fought anddied for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards
becauseJoe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is
hurt onthe job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or
unemploymentcheck because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his
home or gohungry because of his temporary misfortune.
It's noontimeand Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills.
Joe's deposit isfederally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal
wanted to protectJoe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking
system before theGreat Depression.
Joe has to payhis Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal
student loanbecause some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government
would bebetter off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.
Joe is homefrom work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm
home in thecountry. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the
safest in theworld because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety
standards. Hearrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live
in the housefinanced by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't
want to makerural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some
big-governmentliberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural
electrification.
He is happy tosee his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social
Security and aunion pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal
made sure hecould take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.
Joe gets backin his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The
radio hostkeeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He
doesn'tmention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every
protection andbenefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.
Joe agrees:"We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After
all,I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, justlike I
have."
On Monday, March 21, 2022, 12:38:16 PM EDT, Bob Bridges
<[email protected]> wrote:
I've a favorite tagline that says "the problem with communism is communism. The
problem with capitalism is capitalists". I know, Bill, you weren't advocating
communism; the point here is that that your complaint isn't about capitalism per se -- or
shouldn't be -- but about how some people behave under it. Some, not all.
In my ignorant teen years I used to advocate rigid laissez-faire capitalism,
without all those interfering government busybodies trying vainly and foolishly
to regulate the market. Then I learned more about the behaviors that the
Sherman anti-trust act (for example) were trying to correct, and I changed my
mind. By all means rail against the foolish behavior of this company or that
(which is really the behavior of some managers in this company or that). But
it's a mistake to blame the whole system for the sins of some.
---
Bob Bridges, [email protected], cell 336 382-7313
/* I hold it, that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as
necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. -Thomas Jefferson
*/
-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Bill Johnson
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 12:07
As a social Democrat who believes a well regulated capitalism is the best
system, I’ve witnessed the terrible outcomes of pure greed capitalism. The
human costs, the absolute greed, the eventual closing of those companies.
Global warming will be what shows how bad capitalism is.
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