I remember a hint (but only a hint) from the Logica breach.  I was impressed 
that the hackers were able confidently to put together a binary to run on the 
mainframe.  But they ended up completely stymied by the need to put together 
JCL to use it (link-edit it, maybe?  Run it?  I don't remember).  The logs 
afterward show they couldn't get past the error messages about a bad JOB card, 
despite many attempts.

But I think I agree with you anyway.  And even if we're both wrong, we all know 
not to count on ignorance on the part of the bad guys.

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Bob Bridges, [email protected], cell 336 382-7313

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jay 
Maynard
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 08:52

OK, so how much of that is due to inherent differences between Windows and z/OS 
and how much is due to a comparative lack of knowledge and expertise in the 
black hat community about techniques to penetrate z/OS? I'm pretty sure it's 
much more the former, but the question needs asking.

--- On Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 07:48 Bob Bridges <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree that careless (or ignorant) security administration can make 
> any box open to hackers, no matter how good the provisions made 
> available in the OS.  But it's not the only factor.  Two guys, one on 
> a system Z and one on a Windows box, exerting about equal care for 
> their security, will have vastly different outcomes, statistically 
> speaking.  Or 500 guys and 500 guys on a thousand systems, if you prefer.

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