Phishing doesn't happen on mainframes. A user who works at a company that
has a mainframe but no access cannot be a phishing threat to a mainframe.

That was my point.

Joe

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 10:34 AM Gibney, Dave <
[email protected]> wrote:

> It is arguable that a successful phish involved on insider.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> > Behalf Of Joe Monk
> > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 8:20 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: IBM (IBM Z) , Lenovo, HPE and Huawei Servers Rank as Most
> > Secure Platforms in ITIC Survey | TechChannel
> >
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> >
> > "Given that a healthy percentage of successful attacks involves insiders,
> > there
> > is no way that z/OS is immune to breaches."
> >
> > Umm, you may want to rethink that statement...
> >
> > "Phishing and related attacks — such as smishing (phishing lures sent
> over
> > SMS messages) and business email compromise (phishing messages sent by
> > someone pretending to be a colleague or a supervisor) — was the most
> > common
> > primary cause of data breaches in 2021. Ransomware was not too far
> behind,
> > and malware was the third most common cause of data breaches.At the
> > current
> > growth rate, ransomware attacks will pass phishing as the No. 1 root
> cause
> > of data compromises in 2022, ITRC predicts."
> >
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.darkreading.com/edge-threat-
> > monitor/most-common-cause-of-data-breach-in-2021-phishing-smishing-
> > bec__;!!JmPEgBY0HMszNaDT!u-
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> >
> > Last I checked, Outlook doesnt run on z/OS...
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 8:11 AM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Given that a healthy percentage of successful attacks involves
> insiders,
> > > there is no way that z/OS is immune to breaches. The best that can be
> said
> > > is that, properly administered, it is more secure than some other
> platforms.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > >
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mason.gmu.edu/*smetz3__;fg!!JmPEg
> > BY0HMszNaDT!u-4fSo6TSZojRZ0IH6DKEA70HTAH9ucb8s7DxZ4NObs9gvY-
> > _gQMZwf_6EQM1tkS2H_ABi0507J-pmvm$
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on
> > behalf
> > > of Bob Bridges [[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2022 7:53 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: IBM (IBM Z) , Lenovo, HPE and Huawei Servers Rank as Most
> > > Secure Platforms in ITIC Survey | TechChannel
> > >
> > > Don't get me wrong: I do believe that IBM mainframes belong at the top
> of
> > > the list for security capabilities.  But it occurs to me that if they
> > > determined this by poll, then their results may be skewed by a) the
> belief,
> > > on the part of mainframers like me, that IBM is best, and b) a
> reluctance
> > > on the part of some corporations to report breaches even in polls that
> > > claim they're anonymous.
> > >
> > > That said, I'm a little surprised that IBM had "fastest mean time to
> > > detection (MTTD) from the onset of the attempted attack until the
> > company
> > > isolated and shut it down".  I know real-time reporting products are
> out
> > > there for mainframes, but I had the impression they're not used much.
> > >
> > > It's also interesting, given the size of the companies that use
> > > mainframes, that they also report "The least amount of monetary losses
> > due
> > > to a successful security hack".  Although see item b) above again.
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Bob Bridges, [email protected], cell 336 382-7313
> > >
> > > /* Believe me! The secret of reaping the greatest fruitfulness and the
> > > greatest enjoyment from life is to live dangerously!  -Friedrich
> Nietzsche
> > > */
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Mark Regan
> > > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2022 16:40
> > >
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