Thanks for the heads up. One of my dad's friends is an electrician. I will contact him for some more advice on how everything should be wired up, and I will wait until he can come over and supervise the wiring and the first power up. Honestly, I am not even near ready to be doing the power wiring yet, right now, I was just hoping to get an idea of what to expect (single-phase or phase changer, what connector I would need, etc).
Thank you, Enzo Damato ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Harry Wahl <harry_w...@hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 2:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: my new z114 Enzo, Do not plug that machine into public power without a licensed electrician looking at what you doing! I am a NYS licensed PE and you are not only risking your machine (the least of your problems), but also a major fire, explosion, or even death. You will be held responsible for the inevitable damage you will be causing your local electrical grid. The people on this list are sincerely trying to help you, but this level of electrical accommodation must be done by professionals. Home electrical work is one thing, three phase commercial power is another. Good Luck, Harry ________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Enzo D'Amato <edam...@octechservices.org> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 1:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: Re: my new z114 Thanks for the info. From what I have read, the BPRs in all of the z114s are the same weather or not you are using three-phase or single phase. The only difference is the power cord that connects to them. I have a bare-ended power cord with the following leads: black, grey, brown, green. I also have the unbalanced (single) BPR configuration. I got this assumption from Connors Kurkowsy's talk, and from Christian Svensson's experiences (https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.mainframe.dev%2F2019%2F07%2Fpowering-mainframe.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7C130801fe49164d8bdd8e08da40d41b05%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637893577046734414%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3y%2FgztZ4cqB2dwdK%2BSuSxQo%2Fp9AryKaOFuOTIM2ApkE%3D&reserved=0). I also didn't see anything in the physical planning or technical guides showing different BPR modules, only separate power cords. If this is not the case, please do let me know, as I would hate to fry my machine. If I do need three phase, i'll get a converter. Thanks for the info about fundamental software though. The flexcub looks exactly like what I am looking for if I can get my hands on one. Thank you, Enzo Damato ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Harry Wahl <harry_w...@hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 12:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: my new z114 Enzo, You may want to see if you can get a FlexCub which, with its PC Escon card, will connect your z114 to a PC based platform and emulate every type of z114 peripheral you could possibly use. Using standard Escon fiber cable, the z114 Escon connects directly to a PC Card that is a mainframe channel adapter. Between the card's firmware and specific PC programs in the one PC box you will be able to emulate all the peripherals you will need. https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funsoft.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C130801fe49164d8bdd8e08da40d41b05%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637893577046734414%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nsXcIPwi%2F59dU4OZ6zu2XXx4J9rI6oMX1TnAIGk4Hkg%3D&reserved=0 go to FlexCub white paper. Fundamental Software, a.k.a. Funsoft, was spun off from IBM, specifically from their P/390 group. There are several other, similar vendors out there too. One other, unrelated word of advice, if your z114 is 3-phase, you must convert it to single phase. In the specific town you live in, if you order three phase (different from dipole) service the electric company will charge "peak load usage" where they will charge you your highest usage fee for the entire month, even if you use it only for a brief time. This is justified because whatever amount you use they still need to build the delivery capability for you highest demand. I think it will be cost prohibitive to replace the z114 internal power units. Instead, get a single phase to 3-phase power converter. For the power needs of a z114, if you shop around, for the amount of power you need, it will only cost $300-$400. Good-Luck, Harry P.S. There is an ex-IBM CE living in Mamaroneck, N.Y. which is reasonably close to where you live: about a 2 hour drive...115 miles up the Taconic. He maintains a huge museum of old IBM hardware and really knows a lot about this. He may be able to help, but I cannot promise as I have not asked him yet. P.S.S. Also, as a professor at Columbia University in NYC, I may be able to get you access to Columbia's museum of IBM history, including the parts not open to the public. Fundamental Software, Inc.<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funsoft.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C130801fe49164d8bdd8e08da40d41b05%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637893577046734414%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nsXcIPwi%2F59dU4OZ6zu2XXx4J9rI6oMX1TnAIGk4Hkg%3D&reserved=0> System/390 on Intel-Based Servers https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funsoft.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C130801fe49164d8bdd8e08da40d41b05%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637893577046734414%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nsXcIPwi%2F59dU4OZ6zu2XXx4J9rI6oMX1TnAIGk4Hkg%3D&reserved=0 ________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Enzo D'Amato <edam...@octechservices.org> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 10:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: Re: my new z114 This is about what I expected in terms of CPU and memory, but I have no idea what happened with the expansion cards. I almost certainly will not use 18 ficon ports anyway, so I am not too upset about those ports. Either way, I will ask the seller what happened with the extra channel cards. I also wanted to ask if anyone could share the proper 3 phase to single phase wiring for the power cable (I know the z114 BPRs can take 220v single phase). I am checking the technical and physical planning guides for this information, but I would like to independently verify this information so that I don't fry my new machine. Thanks, Enzo Damato ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Tom Brennan <t...@tombrennansoftware.com> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 2:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: my new z114 I was able to download the config information, but it doesn't seem to match what you reported. So it could be I'm looking at something else. Here's a summary - I'll assume you don't mind me posting it here since many people here want to help. z114 2818-M05-A01 485F7 26 MIPS, 3 MSU 40 GB 18 ports FICON 8S SX 8 ports OSA 3-2P 1000BASE-T STP CPACF 1 HMC Tower 2 Power cables - 14ft 200V 30A 3Ph Line On 5/27/2022 9:18 AM, Enzo D'Amato wrote: > I have a model 2818 with s/n 02-485F7. I am fairly sure that I have a > relatively low CPU capacity number, and all my unused PCIE card slots have > blank fillers, but 2 of my I/O drawer slots are empty (no card or filler). If > you can do a lookup, I would appreciate it. > > Thank you, > Enzo Damato > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > Tom Brennan <t...@tombrennansoftware.com> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 11:53 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > Do you know the serial number? It's typically on a small label on the > front door. With that, someone from IBM (or maybe even me, I'm not > sure) can go to IBM's Inventory Services and get the configuration data > that was uploaded the last time the machine was connected to IBM's "call > home" network. That data includes model, CP speed and count, cards, and > other items. And if that data matches your card count, that's a good > sign nobody has been picking spare parts out of the box. > > On 5/27/2022 7:43 AM, Enzo D'Amato wrote: >> Parwez is correct that this is a M05 model, I will let you know what I have >> in terms of processor capacity as soon as I finish setting up power and turn >> it on. I in terms of my IO card configuration, this is what I currently have >> in the box: >> 2 2 port pcie 8g ficon cards (pcie) >> 2 2 port rj45 Ethernet cards (pcie) >> 1 4 port ficon card (IO drawer) >> 2 16 port escon cards (IO drawer) >> >> I did want to ask however, do that crypto express cards and OSA adapters >> require LICCC codes to enable? Most of my home network is 10GbE, and I >> wanted to put one of those cards in so I can directly network it to my core >> switch, but I don't want to order one if it will not activate. I am >> currently working on sourcing FICON storage, and I will update you if I make >> any headway on that front. I also have a plan and I think I will be able to >> get some mainframe attached virtual tape set up. As Harry recommended, I do >> plan on doing some experimenting with the bare metal on the machine, but I >> don't have much experience with embedded/bare metal programming, so I would >> really be starting from the ground up with that. I would like to get in >> contact with someone about getting software disks/licences for my machine. I >> know that you said that it would be a special order as the software is >> withdrawn from marketing, but considering the circumstances, it may not hurt >> to ask. I would also like to look into what would be involved in getting a >> LICCC capacity upgrade (the z114 is not completely out of support until the >> end of this year). If you know anyone who I should reach out to, please let >> me know. >> >> I am quite close to both the z/VM and Marist events (I am like 20 minutes >> from the IBM Poughkeepsie plant), but I will have to check my calendar to >> see if I can make them (I should be able to, but I may have finals that >> week. I will have to check). >> >> I will keep this list updated as I make progress and work on getting the >> system set up. >> Thank you, >> Enzo Damato >> ________________________________________ >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of >> Timothy Sipples <sipp...@sg.ibm.com> >> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 6:04 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: my new z114 >> >> Enzo, >> >> Congratulations on your acquisition! >> >> I’m curious if you happen to know yet the physical model (it’ll be either >> 2818-M05 or 2818-M10) and general capacity details, notably the capacity >> model, number/type(s) of specialty engines (if any; IFLs, zIIPs, ICFs), and >> memory configuration. The capacity model is a letter (A to Z), the number 0, >> and a number 0 to 5. For example, Q02. [A00 would be unfortunate since >> that’d mean no general purpose engines (CPs) are configured. If it’s a Z05 >> you won this lottery, but really any CP capacity is fine for a home lab.] >> Also, have you figured out yet what features you have installed in the I/O >> slots? >> >> As I think I mentioned, if you have a 2818-M10 and/or lots of I/O features >> you might be able to (unofficially, after very careful study) field modify >> the physical configuration so that you’re powering fewer components to >> reduce electricity consumption and heat output in your home lab. But if you >> have a -M05 with just a few I/O features then this’ll be a moot point. >> >> I wonder if the machine has any Crypto Express adapters. >> >> I really like the suggestion to visit the z/VM conference if you can. There >> are bound to be many curious and knowledgeable people there. If 21st Century >> Software happens to be at that conference then you could ask them about VSEn >> 6.3 if that interests you. There’s also a mainframe conference coming up at >> Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York, from June 12 to 14, if convenient. >> >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fecc.marist.edu%2Fweb%2Fconference2022&data=05%7C01%7C%7C130801fe49164d8bdd8e08da40d41b05%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637893577046734414%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jp8Z8SMN0lO4E2tZS5svlgbIjJ7XWOWTGl4dUaQSw4A%3D&reserved=0 >> >> Operating systems that do not require ECKD/FICON-attached storage >> (technically, leaving any licensing issues aside): Linux, z/VM, z/VSE, VSEn. >> Possibly also MUSIC/SP, as a guest of z/VM anyway, but I’m guessing a bit. I >> think you can start the z/OS Customized Offerings Driver without actually >> having any attached storage, but then you can’t do that much with it. >> >> Operating systems that require ECKD/FICON-attached storage: z/OS, z/TPF. >> (z/TPF is even a little more particular about minimum storage >> configurations. I believe it requires some physical or virtual tape as well.) >> >> There are some bootable “mini things” that people don’t generally consider >> operating systems but that do serve useful functions. Standalone IOCP and >> Jan Jaeger’s ZZSA are two good examples. >> >> Good luck, and please keep us posted. >> >> — — — — — >> Timothy Sipples >> Senior Architect >> Digital Assets, Industry Solutions, and Cybersecurity >> IBM zSystems/LinuxONE, Asia-Pacific >> sipp...@sg.ibm.com >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> . >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
