If you do both full volume, and incremental backup, the full volume can happen 
even when open. The data may be "dirty". I think there is also an option to 
ignore some open conditions.

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> Subject: Re: HSM backups and CICS VSAM files,
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> We cannot have the file closed to CICS.
> If this is not possible to do I understand.  I just am curious as to why it 
> does
> the back some days and not on other days.
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> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: HSM backups and CICS VSAM files,
> 
> If a transaction accesses the file, the dataset is opened until closed.
> To test.
> Issue HBACKDS / on the file.
> Do a transaction that reads the file.
> Issue HBACKDS / on the file (should not work).
> Do a CEMT to close the file.
> Issue HBACKDS / on the file (should work).
> Enable the file to be opened (if disabled).
> 
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 11:11 AM Frank Swarbrick
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > As a developer I've come to rely on using HSM to restore prior day's data
> from production files where we don't take an explicit daily backup (as it's 
> un-
> needed for normal business processing).  Some of these files are files that
> are open to CICS.  I find that HSM backs them up on some days but not on
> other days.  Is there a specific cause of this behavior?  The file (one 
> particular
> one, but there are others) is open to CICS and being updated constantly
> throughout the day.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Frank
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