EXPN? It was the laptop. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
The question remains: What IP prevented the release of the SOM and WPS support in OREXX, as opposed to SOM and WPS themselves? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of zMan [[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 10:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences? WTF? ELIF. AYOD? On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 7:26 AM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that PM is encumbered by ms IP, but I thought that SOM and WPS were > strictly IBM. Further, the SOM and WPS for OREXX require only the header > files, not the actual code of SOM and WPS. > > > > > > > > > > I > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf > of René Jansen <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 4:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences? > > I agree. In the case of orexx, it was the case that those parts were > encumbered by intellectual property of unfriendly competitors; with this > emulator, I cannot imagine that. This must be the mistaken ‘modernize’ > lobby at work; on the other hand, at least it atmits the fact that you need > a 3270 emulator. > > René > > > On 18 Nov 2022, at 17:31, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Open sourcing is good; dropping functionality in the process, not so > much. Reminds me of ooRexx, where IBM did not open source the OM and WPS > classes from OREXX. > > > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on > behalf of René Jansen [[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 1:41 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences? > > > > Just installed TNZ (on an M1 Mac) - looking good, and the more emulators > the merrier. Thanks for posting this link, and the medium article, would > not have found out how to disarm SSL on my own easily. > > > > I have to admit to mixed feelings seeing this: on the plus side, it is > very good to release this open source. On the minus side, it used to be a > Rexx related tool and was (afaik) not very generously given out to > customers. I remember having to script ehllapi in Rexx to do some of the > things this can do in a more simple way. > > > > For me, the time to de-Rexx this could have been spent to add GDDM > support. But you don't hear me complain about free and open source. It is > good to see the rexx.py source, which implements some Rexx BIFSs in Python > - I have already saved that for useful usage. > > > > Being a ZOC user on the Mac and Windows and a C3270 user on Linux, I > have to find out a few things. First and foremost, how I can get a LINEFEED > on the [Enter] key, SEND mapped to right-ctrl (or right COMMAND on the Mac) > and CLEAR to the right Option key on the Mac. Because this is how 3270 > keyboards were meant to be used and most people who complain to me about > 3270 do not know this. > > > > Secondly, I did not figure out the copy/paste yet. This is an important > function that a lot of the commercial emulators did not get exactly right, > and is also a weaker point of C3270 (depending in which shell you run it). > > > > The medium article refers to anti.py for documentation. Is there some > more doc I have to be aware of? > > > > best regards, > > > > René. > > > >> On 17 Nov 2022, at 12:05, Dave Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Now if it would only support GDDM style graphics orders like PCOMM > does... > >> DJ > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
