That's not the way I am reading it from the SMP/E commands manual.  Here's what 
I see.

The RESTORE command replaces the affected elements in the target libraries with 
the unchanged
versions from the distribution libraries. (As a result, once you have accepted 
a SYSMOD into the
distribution libraries, you cannot use RESTORE to remove it from the target 
libraries.)

The second example seems to bear this out as well.  If I have PTFs 1, 2, and 3 
applied to a module and not accepted, and I want to restore PTF 3, I have to 
either restore all 3 and reapply the first 2 or accept the first 2 before 
restoring #3.  

Unless I'm missing something completely from this conversation which is quite 
probable.  

Rex

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jay 
Maynard
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 7:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: SMP/E oddity?

I'd always understood that RESTORE could do this, but it required a lot more 
work on the part of SMP/E, and the purpose of ACCEPT was to make RESTORE work 
much faster. Every shop I ever worked at didn't ACCEPT anything (except for 
those very rare SYSMODs that needed it for sysgen
processing) until just before a maintenance cycle and accepted that RESTORE was 
going to take more work because of it.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 1:12 AM Binyamin Dissen <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 20:45:48 +0000 "Kurt J. Quackenbush" 
> <[email protected]
> >
> wrote:
>
> :>> Yeah, this all makes sense. Basically, the idea of APPLY is to 
> build the LMOD with everything that's been ACCEPTed or previously APPLYed to 
> it.
> :>SMP/E has enough information to reconstruct it from scratch if 
> needed, but will save itself the work of rebuilding the LMOD from the 
> MODs if it doesn't have to do it.
>
> :>> You mention that the MODs are applied from PTFs; I assume that 
> APARs are also reapplied if not SUPd (which they would be required to 
> be if the PTF you're working with would clobber them).
>
> :>Yes, FUNCTIONs, PTFs, APARs, USERMODs, whatever SYSMOD last replaced 
> a MOD (the MOD's RMID) can be used to obtain a usable copy of that MOD 
> from the SMPPTS.
>
> :>> Does the same processing apply to RESTORE? Or does it always build 
> from scratch?
>
> :>RESTORE does behave the same as APPLY in this respect.
>
> RESTORE no longer requires that other maintenance to the involved 
> elements be ACCEPTed?
>
> It can rebuild the load modules using APPLYed-only elements?
>
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