I think the promise of zosmf is far beyond just a server pack replacement.
Yeah server pack was great for what it was but when it comes to the grind
of installing over and over and over again and the customization the
workflow features I believe really hold the promise to fixing what is a
continuously pain in the butt situation. And hopefully they'll continue to
make it lighter and lighter. But the other part is the distribution points
and the packaging for distribution. Yeah I don't really care how it
happens whether it's a GUI or not. But in my view this is steps in the
right direction.
I would point you to Ed's presentation on the workflow features that were
incorporated to E/JES2 installation. I really think there's something here.
Just my two cents.
Rob Schramm
On Mon, Mar 6, 2023, 12:06 Michael Babcock <bigironp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree. We use a permanent maintenance LPAR which is generally not up.
> With ServerPac, it didn’t matter we could select it as the target from our
> driving system. With z/OSMF, if run on the driving system, z/OSMF wanted
> the target up and wanted to communicate with it via z/OSMF. Not good for
> us.
>
> Further, PSWI uses DSS to restore the datasets and ignores any DATACLAS
> parameters. Our OMVS datasets are all EXTADDR so we had to build a REXX
> EXEC to copy the OMVS datasets to a newly allocated OMVS dataset with the
> EXTADDR attribute. Which by the way, what happens when the ROOT grows
> beyond 4GB?
>
> There were a number of other things we ran into which escape me at the
> moment.
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 10:15 AM Shaffer, Terri <
> 0000017d5f778222-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > Randy,
> > I completely agree, This will be my 40th year working on z/OS and at
> > least another 7 years to go.
> >
> > I find z/OSMF cumbersome. I prefer to do things close to the source.
> Not
> > a tool to add layers of complexity and places to go wrong with yet more
> > strange messages.
> >
> > I installed z/OS 2.5 before they eliminated SERVERPAC. I then ordered it
> > again to try it thru z/OSMF, it added a lot more time, the SSA's, my SMS
> > ACS routines and how things got built added to the complexity. Plus
> there
> > are many times I would bypass steps in serverpac, that because z/OSMF is
> > performing what they call checks, think idiot proofing, makes this even
> > more difficult.
> >
> > More to come, but if I find work arounds, I will bypass in the future
> what
> > I can in z/OSMF software installs.
> >
> >
> > Ms Terri E Shaffer
> > Senior Systems Engineer,
> > z/OS Support:
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 9:03 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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> > I'm sure my complaints don't do any good, but I've been doing this for 25
> > years (I know many of you a lot longer).
> > I don't understand why IBM wants to force everyone to use z/OSMF.
> > Maybe it's an attempt to attract a younger group of System Programmers.
> > That's fine. However, I am not a GUI fan. I like the green screen.
> > Serverpac works great. I am running into issues trying to learn z/OSMF.
> > It's a waste of my time when I already know how to use Serverpac.
> >
> > Randy Harris
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> > Running zOSMF under z/OS 2.4. In attempting to load the Portable Software
> > Instance, retrieving the contents from the directory, that was used when
> > the order was retrieved to our system, I get the following error.
> >
> > An error was found in file "/u/pinionr/TDMF/IZUD00DF.json". Error: "The
> > file contains data that is not supported by the current level of z/OSMF.
> > The version = 8."IZUD277E Feb 16, 2023, 10:14:02 AM
> >
> > I have no idea how to proceed. If I need to apply maintenance to zOSMF,
> > how would I be able to proceed?
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