What I hate are people who take one of my jobs, modify it, and bomplain about it when their changes don't work' "Which part of as-is don't you understand?"
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Pommier, Rex [rpomm...@sfgmembers.com] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 4:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please Sorry, I'm going to "rag" on a language... :-) Admittedly I know next to nothing about it. My exposure to it consists of reading an article where somebody took a 14 line JCL job and converted it to JOL and the JOL code ended up somewhere around 70+ lines plus comments to explain what the program was doing. It appears that JOL now does a lot more than it used to do the last time I actually looked at it. However, in JCL's defense, how many people actually build jobs (especially more complex multi-step jobs with IF/THEN, conditional execution, etc. from scratch? Same as with a typical Cobol program, you take an existing program or JCL member and modify it to fit your needs. How many people here use JCL (whether you like it or hate it) on a regular basis? It's ubiquitous. How many use JOL? Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 3:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fjol.oscar-jol.com%2Fabout-jol__%3B!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0Fj!vGAo09RSRyegMrA-_z-guiaGvhkdNPyxpge54CfqCQvUuwDKJzELN2R4OZtsAhm19487HzuIfdXymkh3cCArALgCDA%24&data=05%7C01%7Csmetz3%40gmu.edu%7Cc6e09dc387a445d6cec508db2f01ecba%7C9e857255df574c47a0c00546460380cb%7C0%7C0%7C638155457553099336%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2R9ROb0jlSx2Hdb%2BGMDO3NdZo8bxhgVq2w%2FQHCKSAkQ%3D&reserved=0 JCL On Line On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 2:43 PM Farley, Peter <0000031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > <glaring at JCL> Maybe . . . 😊 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN