Classification: Confidential As indicated previously, the code to support those devices was *removed* from z/OS (or whatever incarnation at that time).
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Farley, Peter Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 11:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Ignorant z/OS question [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] PMFJI here, but when I heard some years ago that z/OS dropped support for 3215 keyboard/printer consoles it occurred to me to ask what the users of z/OS under z/VM were supposed to do to easily automate console logging/monitoring and automated IPL/shutdown external to z/OS? Maybe more recent z/VM’s have facilities I am not aware of that can directly capture output from and interact with 3270 devices better than in older versions, but I haven’t seen anything in this thread that would support that speculation. Why withdraw support for a simple to use and simple to automate console interface that Just Worked (tm)? It never made any sense to me. Maybe z/OS-centric hubris (automation can only happen inside z/OS, do it our way or hit the highway, dude)? Peter From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 12:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Ignorant z/OS question Hi Phil, z/VM has ALWAYS (since VM R6.0.) had the CONSOLE at 009 in the Directory entry for users by convention. You could DEF 9 3E1 to change it. Regards, David On 2023-07-25 12:00, Phil Smith III wrote: > Jon Perryman wrote: >> Steve says there is 1 exception to the hardware console requiring V >> CN(*),ACT to become the first active console during IPL. He says if >> you disable all z/OS DEV(###) consoles, then the hardware console >> will >> automatically activate because there is no other console available. I >> believe this to be true but I have never tried this. There may be a >> couple caveats that can be discussed later if it solves your problem. >> This is simple to test. From the z/OS VM user, detach all devices >> specified in PARMLIB(CONSOL##). At the moment, forget he mentions >> "NIP" device because this is almost always included in >> PARMLIB(CONSOL##) which means you would have detached it. This is so >> simple it's worth a try. > I will, when I can--maybe this weekend! That might be the answer, because the > original directory entry (I'm told) had the virtual console at 0009, but the > CONSOLxx has it at 03E1. -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: ________________________________ The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. ________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
