Agree. my point is that a mainframe is just another server and that
you don't need to login into to damage the data.

ITschak

ITschak Mugzach
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On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 11:35 PM Charles Mills <[email protected]> wrote:

> The long periods of bad guy access are typical. You read most of the
> breach stories the attack unfolded over weeks or months. The hackers talk
> about pwning (owning) a group of servers.
>
> CM
>
> On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 16:13:12 -0400, Phil Smith III <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >ITschak Mugzach wrote, in part:
> >>Remember that when pirate bay penetrated Logica, he had
> >>no clue on mainframes, but was able to stay for almost 1.5 years.
> >
> >This falls into the category of "things I just don't get": if that had
> been me, I'd've woken up every single morning wondering if this was the day
> that my access would be gone, and whether there was about to be a loud
> knock on the door (at least). Yes, I know, this wasn't in the U.S. so the
> cops would have been less violent, but still-if I were out committing
> crimes, I'd want them to be over as soon as possible so I could continue on
> with my life, knowing that there was some chance of evidence leading to me,
> but not with a continuous, live channel leading back to me!
>
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