Back in the "good old days" <dws>, there were alternative ways of shipping products and service. It was a nightmare, and SMP made things a lot more robust. Asking the z/OS community to abandon SMP is equivalent to asking the Linux community to abandon SCCS, CVS, svn and git. By all means look for ways to make the process smoother, but don't abandon the dependency checking.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Colin Paice [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2023 10:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Is SMP/E needed for installs? This week, I did my first SMP/E install since my previous one over 40 years ago! The process hasn't changed much. It took me about half a day to download the files and configure the jobs - making the same changes in several jobs. For people new to z/OS "installation" is hard to get into, understand, and get working properly. Has anyone thought about alternative ways of shipping products? For example many products are now Web downloads, which you just restore. I would like to see a DFDSS dump of the CST level of all objects and a matching dump of the SMP/E datasets of the product. I can just restore the product stuff,and not the SMP/E stuff, or I can install the SMP/E stuff as well. If you want to install a fix, then apply it to the SMP/E libraries. In 3 months time, repeat the whole process. I think we have to do something before all those with the knowledge and experience retire! Colin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
