Yes, thanks for asking, we have thought about an alternative.  And an 
alternative exists in z/OSMF Software Management and Portable Software 
Instances.  In this form you can package, deliver, and install software whether 
it is SMP/E managed or not.  If it is SMP/E managed, as much of the software on 
the z/OS platform is, then the package includes the SMP/E artifacts like CSIs 
so you can install PTF fixes.  You can of course choose to ignore the SMP/E 
artifacts and just repeat the process to install an updated Portable Software 
Instance in 3 months as you suggest.

Kurt Quackenbush
IBM  |  z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management  |  [email protected]

Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Colin Paice
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2023 10:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Is SMP/E needed for installs?

This week, I did my first SMP/E install since my previous one over 40 years
ago!   The process hasn't changed much.  It took me about half a day to
download the files and configure the jobs - making the same changes in several 
jobs.
For people new to z/OS "installation" is hard to get into, understand, and get 
working properly.

Has anyone thought about alternative ways of shipping products?  For example 
many products are now Web downloads, which you just restore.
I would like to see a DFDSS dump of the CST level of all objects and a matching 
dump of the  SMP/E datasets of the product.
I can just restore the product stuff,and not the SMP/E stuff, or I can
install the SMP/E stuff as well.   If you want to install a fix, then apply
it to the SMP/E libraries.
In 3 months time,  repeat the whole process.

I think we have to do something before all those with the knowledge and 
experience retire!

Colin

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