> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 08:58:51 AM PDT, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 10:15:59 -0400, David Spiegel wrote:
>> Hi Phil,
>> You said: "...The SYMBOLS= stuff might help here ..."
>> "might"??? -- No! ... "will"
> Your approach was similar to mine.  We agree; we must be right.
> Phil suspected problems with instream SYMBOLS-.  I envision a couple.

Does anyone believe that symbols is causing the problem with SMP/e install JCL? 
Do you think we can't write rexx, use ISPF JCL tailoring, ISPF edit macros or 
the many other tools that everyone else uses to tailor JCL?

If simplifying the install process is so vital, then contact the vendors. I can 
only speak for myself but I don't feel asking you to spend 10 extra minutes to 
customize the install jobs is asking too much to guarantee you at least looked 
at the JCL and possibly realize that we did not make the correct choice for 
your environment. Do you think that in 40 years we couldn't come up with a 
completely automated install that fills in the blanks?

The bigger question is if using edit change commands causes this much grief, 
have you considered the implications of how you plan to maintain products?


    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 08:58:51 AM PDT, Paul Gilmartin 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 10:15:59 -0400, David Spiegel wrote:

>Hi Phil,
>You said: "...The SYMBOLS= stuff might help here ..."
>"might"??? -- No! ... "will"
>
Your approach was similar to mine.  We agree; we must be right.

Phil suspected problems with instream SYMBOLS-.  I envision a couple.

Ampersand pairs are not collapsed.  That behavior suits Jonathan Scott.
I'm less enthusiastic.  It makes it tricky to escape evaluation of symbols,
and deviates from general MVS convention.

Column alignment is preserved, like ISPF convention.  This is valuable
to preserve column 72, but could be undesirable if it changes the
length of spans of blanks in quoted strings.

-- 
gil

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