What I found somewhat disheartening was that IBM is dropping support for both 
the z13 and z13s at the same time despite the fact the z13s was made available 
a year later than its big brother.  

Rex

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Eric D Rossman
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Called it! Unfortunately, it was my worst case scenario.

> Subject: Re: IBM Z13 and Z13s EOL
> From: Eric D Rossman <edros...@us.ibm.com>
> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 19:44:39 +0000
> 
> Long ago, the time from GA to EOS was shorter (like 9 years or so), 
> then it slowly increased to 12-13 years (and even 14 for the z900 
> GA1), but recent models has been slightly less (10-11 years), so my 
> thinking (again I don't have any OFFICIAL insight):
> 
> worst case: EOY 2024
> best case: EOY 2026

Eric Rossman

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Monk
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 3:02 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z13s going EOS anytime soon?

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/IBM*20Mainframe*20Life*20Cycle*20History*20V2.13*20-*20July*2011*202023.pdf__;JSUlJSUlJSUl!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0Fj!pjXVggP_Yq_EPxjxDG2IH2PXBIou1D-KlUV7-ZZODnsaTkz3OZBGoi2_DQwARPQxq3kfxMW9mZAuRK5dfMV_$
- slide 4

z13s is EOS on 12/31/2024.

Joe

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 1:58 PM Claude Richbourg < 
claude.richbo...@myfloridacfo.com> wrote:

> Good afternoon,
>
> We are currently running on a z13s -2965 and I just started the 
> planning process of going to a newer processor sometime soon.
>
> Has anyone heard when the official IBM EOS will be for the z13s?
> I have seen different dates 06-30-2026 and now 12-31-2024, so I am not 
> sure what the real EOS is.
>
> If anyone knows what IBMs official stance is on the 2965, I would 
> surely like to know.
>
> Thanks up front.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Claude
>
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