Ahh, thanks.  Hopefully then, this is an anomaly and not future trends.  We 
don't have a z13s but have a z14 and z15 "baby boxes" and we typically run them 
until they fall off maintenance.

Rex

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Mike Schwab
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z13s going EOS anytime soon?

z/OS 3.1 won't run on it.

On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 7:46 AM Pommier, Rex <rpomm...@sfgmembers.com> wrote:
>
> What I found somewhat disheartening was that IBM is dropping support for both 
> the z13 and z13s at the same time despite the fact the z13s was made 
> available a year later than its big brother.
>
> Rex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On 
> Behalf Of Eric D Rossman
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2023 7:06 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z13s going EOS anytime soon?
>
> Called it! Unfortunately, it was my worst case scenario.
>
> > Subject: Re: IBM Z13 and Z13s EOL
> > From: Eric D Rossman <edros...@us.ibm.com>
> > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 19:44:39 +0000
> >
> > Long ago, the time from GA to EOS was shorter (like 9 years or so), 
> > then it slowly increased to 12-13 years (and even 14 for the z900 
> > GA1), but recent models has been slightly less (10-11 years), so my 
> > thinking (again I don't have any OFFICIAL insight):
> >
> > worst case: EOY 2024
> > best case: EOY 2026
>
> Eric Rossman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On 
> Behalf Of Joe Monk
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 3:02 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z13s going EOS anytime soon?
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/f
> iles/inline-files/IBM*20Mainframe*20Life*20Cycle*20History*20V2.13*20-
> *20July*2011*202023.pdf__;JSUlJSUlJSUl!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0Fj!pjXVggP_Yq_EP
> xjxDG2IH2PXBIou1D-KlUV7-ZZODnsaTkz3OZBGoi2_DQwARPQxq3kfxMW9mZAuRK5dfMV
> _$
> - slide 4
>
> z13s is EOS on 12/31/2024.
>
> Joe
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 1:58 PM Claude Richbourg < 
> claude.richbo...@myfloridacfo.com> wrote:
>
> > Good afternoon,
> >
> > We are currently running on a z13s -2965 and I just started the 
> > planning process of going to a newer processor sometime soon.
> >
> > Has anyone heard when the official IBM EOS will be for the z13s?
> > I have seen different dates 06-30-2026 and now 12-31-2024, so I am 
> > not sure what the real EOS is.
> >
> > If anyone knows what IBMs official stance is on the 2965, I would 
> > surely like to know.
> >
> > Thanks up front.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Claude
> >
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